RE: [ipfix-req] does raqmon-pdu compete with ipfix?

["Carter Bullard" <[e-mail]>]

Hey Jeff,
   The question was to the whole IPFIX group, of
course with the intention of trying to motivate
someone to point it out to an AD, who is suppose
to be paying attention to what's going on in 
their family of WG's to prevent duplicate efforts.

   Because RAQMON-PDU is in the RMON charter, 
its not just a, "here's an interesting draft,
why not come on over to IPFIX and lets work
together" kind of problem.  If, of course,
anyone ever recognizes it as a problem.  IMHO
this is definitely IPFIX killer technology.

   What I find interesting is that RAMON-PDU
transport has no congestion awareness.
   
Carter

   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MEYER,JEFFREY D (HP-Cupertino,ex1) [mailto:[e-mail]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:12 PM
> To: '[e-mail]'; [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [ipfix-req] does raqmon-pdu compete with ipfix?
> 
> 
> Carter,
> 
>   From the synopsis, it certainly sounds like Raqmon could
> simply use IPFIX.  However, who is your question directed to?
> 
>   Have you had any dialog w/ A. Siddiqui et al.?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   Jeff Meyer
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carter Bullard [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:51 AM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: [ipfix-req] does raqmon-pdu compete with ipfix?
> > 
> > 
> > Gentle People,
> >    I believe that raqmon-pdu is indeed a direct
> > competitor to IPFIX.  Why not realize that raqmon
> > is a form of flow data and have it use IPFIX?
> > 
> > Carter
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> > Of [e-mail]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:08 AM
> > To: IETF-Announce:
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: [RMONMIB] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-pdu-00.txt
> > 
> > 
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > directories. This draft is a work item of the Remote Network 
> > Monitoring
> > Working Group of the IETF.
> > 
> > 	Title		: Real-time Application Quality of Service
> > Monitoring 
> >                          (RAQMON) Protocol Data Unit (PDU)
> > 	Author(s)	: A. Siddiqui et al.
> > 	Filename	: draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-pdu-00.txt
> > 	Pages		: 26
> > 	Date		: 2003-1-15
> > 	
> > This memo defines a common protocol data unit (PDU) used 
> > between RAQMON
> > Data Source (RDS) and RAQMON Report Collector (RRC) to report a QOS
> > statistics using RTCP and SNMP as Transport Protocol. The original
> > RAQMON draft [SIDDIQUI3] was split into 3 parts to identify 
> the RAQMON
> > Framework, RAQMON QOS PDU and RAQMON MIB. This memo defined 
> RAQMON QOS
> > Protocol Data Unit (PDU). This memo also outlines mechanisms 
> > to use Real
> > Time Transport Control Protocol
> > (RTCP) and Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) to 
> > transport these
> > PDUs between RAQMON Data Source (RDS) and RAQMON Report 
> > Collector (RRC)
> > as outlined in RAQMON Charter of the RMON Workgroup. The memo
> > [SIDDIQUI2] defines a Real-Time Application QOS Monitoring
> > (RAQMON) Framework that extends the RMON Framework to allow 
> Real-time
> > Application QoS information as outlined by RAQMON Charter 
> of the RMON
> > Workgroup. The memo [SIDDIQUI1] defines a portion of the Management
> > Information Base (MIB) for use with network management 
> > protocols in the
> > Internet community. The document proposes an extension to the Remote
> > Monitoring MIB [RFC2819] to accommodate RAQMON solution. 
> > Distribution of
> > this memo is unlimited.
> > 
> > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmonmib-raqmon-
> pdu-00.txt
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