Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?

Hi Smith,

If the revised/renamed document adds conformance
requirements (it does - all of this cluster of revisions
do so), then I suggest it should be v2.0 (truth-in-
advertising) because the same IPP attributes now
have new conformance and usage constraints.

Mike - WDYT?

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 11:40 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <
smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

> So if it is now named "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions (NODRIVER)",
> what version number, since it is a renamed / rebranded JPS3?
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards
> Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>
> Signed PGP part
> +1. Will go with that.
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     HP Inc.
> */
>
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>
> Ira,
>
> NODRIVER works for me as well.
>
> ____________________
> Michael Sweet
>
> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Mike,
>
> See my reply to Uli just now.
>
> For simplicity, how about "nodriver"?
>
> I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>
>> Ira,
>>
>> It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think
>> the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I
>> don't have a strong objection to it.
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > I hadn't thought about "DLP".
>> >
>> > How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing aspect.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > - Ira
>> >
>> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Ira,
>> >
>> > How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym?  DLPX makes me think of
>> a super version of DLP projectors... :)
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in
>> 'x',
>> > > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing
>> > > special drivers.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > - Ira
>> > >
>> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>> > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards
>> Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>> > > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" -
>> will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed.
>> > >
>> > > Smith
>> > >
>> > > /**
>> > >     Smith Kennedy
>> > >     HP Inc.
>> > > */
>> > >
>> > >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi Mike,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you!
>> > >>
>> > >> +1
>> > >>
>> > >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions
>> > >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous).
>> > >>
>> > >> JPS3 is a meaningless name.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers,
>> > >> - Ira
>> > >>
>> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>> > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> > >> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >> All,
>> > >>
>> > >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to
>> me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications:
>> > >>
>> > >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed
>> to "IPP Production Printing Extensions"
>> > >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to
>> "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions"
>> > >>
>> > >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set
>> 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing.  I suggest we
>> rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example:
>> > >>
>> > >>     "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions"
>> > >>
>> > >>     "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions"
>> > >>
>> > >>     "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions"
>> > >>
>> > >>     "IPP Universal Printing Extensions"
>> > >>
>> > >> Thoughts?
>> > >>
>> > >> ________________________
>> > >> Michael Sweet
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> >
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