Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?
Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Mon, 04 November 2019 12:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?
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From: Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org>
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Smith, Still 2.0 - we'll keep the same standard number since the content is mostly unchanged. > On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:40 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote: > > So if it is now named "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions (NODRIVER)", what version number, since it is a renamed / rebranded JPS3? > > >> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote: >> >> Signed PGP part >> +1. Will go with that. >> >> Smith >> >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> HP Inc. >> */ >> >>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote: >>> >>> Ira, >>> >>> NODRIVER works for me as well. >>> >>> ____________________ >>> Michael Sweet >>> >>>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> See my reply to Uli just now. >>>> >>>> For simplicity, how about "nodriver"? >>>> >>>> I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> - Ira >>>> >>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>>> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >>>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >>>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >>>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>>> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote: >>>> Ira, >>>> >>>> It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I don't have a strong objection to it. >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Mike, >>>> > >>>> > I hadn't thought about "DLP". >>>> > >>>> > How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing aspect. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers, >>>> > - Ira >>>> > >>>> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>>> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>>> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >>>> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>>> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>>> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>>> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>>> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>>> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >>>> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >>>> > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>>> > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote: >>>> > Ira, >>>> > >>>> > How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym? DLPX makes me think of a super version of DLP projectors... :) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Hi, >>>> > > >>>> > > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in 'x', >>>> > > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing >>>> > > special drivers. >>>> > > >>>> > > Cheers, >>>> > > - Ira >>>> > > >>>> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >>>> > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>>> > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>>> > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>>> > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>>> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >>>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >>>> > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>>> > > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: >>>> > > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" - will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed. >>>> > > >>>> > > Smith >>>> > > >>>> > > /** >>>> > > Smith Kennedy >>>> > > HP Inc. >>>> > > */ >>>> > > >>>> > >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Hi Mike, >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Thank you! >>>> > >> >>>> > >> +1 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions >>>> > >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous). >>>> > >> >>>> > >> JPS3 is a meaningless name. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Cheers, >>>> > >> - Ira >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >>>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >>>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG >>>> > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >>>> > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >>>> > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >>>> > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >>>> > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >>>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >>>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >>>> > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >>>> > >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote: >>>> > >> All, >>>> > >> >>>> > >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed to "IPP Production Printing Extensions" >>>> > >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions" >>>> > >> >>>> > >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing. I suggest we rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" >>>> > >> >>>> > >> "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions" >>>> > >> >>>> > >> "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions" >>>> > >> >>>> > >> "IPP Universal Printing Extensions" >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Thoughts? >>>> > >> >>>> > >> ________________________ >>>> > >> Michael Sweet >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> ipp mailing list >>>> > >> ipp@pwg.org >>>> > >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> ipp mailing list >>>> > >> ipp@pwg.org >>>> > >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > ________________________ >>>> > Michael Sweet >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> ________________________ >>>> Michael Sweet >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
- [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Michael Sweet via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp
- Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3? Ira McDonald via ipp