Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?

Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Mon, 04 November 2019 12:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?
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Smith,

Still 2.0 - we'll keep the same standard number since the content is mostly unchanged.

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:40 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
> 
> So if it is now named "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions (NODRIVER)", what version number, since it is a renamed / rebranded JPS3?
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Signed PGP part
>> +1. Will go with that.
>> 
>> Smith
>> 
>> /**
>>     Smith Kennedy
>>     HP Inc.
>> */
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ira,
>>> 
>>> NODRIVER works for me as well.
>>> 
>>> ____________________
>>> Michael Sweet
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> See my reply to Uli just now.
>>>> 
>>>> For simplicity, how about "nodriver"?
>>>> 
>>>> I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> - Ira
>>>> 
>>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>>> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>>> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>>>> Ira,
>>>> 
>>>> It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I don't have a strong objection to it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hi Mike,
>>>> > 
>>>> > I hadn't thought about "DLP".
>>>> > 
>>>> > How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing aspect.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > - Ira
>>>> > 
>>>> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>>> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>>> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>>> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>>> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>>> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>>> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>>> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>>> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>>> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>>> > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>>> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>>>> > Ira,
>>>> > 
>>>> > How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym?  DLPX makes me think of a super version of DLP projectors... :)
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Hi,
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in 'x',
>>>> > > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing
>>>> > > special drivers.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Cheers,
>>>> > > - Ira
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>>> > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>>> > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>>> > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>>> > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>>> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>>> > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>>> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>>> > > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" - will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed.
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Smith
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > /**
>>>> > >     Smith Kennedy
>>>> > >     HP Inc.
>>>> > > */
>>>> > > 
>>>> > >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Hi Mike,
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Thank you!
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> +1
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions
>>>> > >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous).
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> JPS3 is a meaningless name.
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Cheers,
>>>> > >> - Ira
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>>> > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>>> > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>>> > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>>> > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>>> > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>>> > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>>> > >> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>>>> > >> All,
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications:
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed to "IPP Production Printing Extensions"
>>>> > >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions"
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing.  I suggest we rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example:
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >>     "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions"
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >>     "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions"
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >>     "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions"
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >>     "IPP Universal Printing Extensions"
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> Thoughts?
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> ________________________
>>>> > >> Michael Sweet
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
>>>> > >> 
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>>>> > 
>>>> > ________________________
>>>> > Michael Sweet
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________
>>>> Michael Sweet
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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