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Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?

Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Mon, 04 November 2019 14:37 UTC

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 09:37:30 -0500
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To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards)" <smith.kennedy@hp.com>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Rename JPS3?
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Hi Smith and Mike,

Never mind - Mike had already agreed with 2.0.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434



On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:36 AM Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Smith,
>
> If the revised/renamed document adds conformance
> requirements (it does - all of this cluster of revisions
> do so), then I suggest it should be v2.0 (truth-in-
> advertising) because the same IPP attributes now
> have new conformance and usage constraints.
>
> Mike - WDYT?
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 11:40 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <
> smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
>> So if it is now named "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions (NODRIVER)",
>> what version number, since it is a renamed / rebranded JPS3?
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards
>> Architect) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>>
>> Signed PGP part
>> +1. Will go with that.
>>
>> Smith
>>
>> /**
>>     Smith Kennedy
>>     HP Inc.
>> */
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ira,
>>
>> NODRIVER works for me as well.
>>
>> ____________________
>> Michael Sweet
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> See my reply to Uli just now.
>>
>> For simplicity, how about "nodriver"?
>>
>> I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ira,
>>>
>>> It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think
>>> the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I
>>> don't have a strong objection to it.
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Mike,
>>> >
>>> > I hadn't thought about "DLP".
>>> >
>>> > How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing
>>> aspect.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > - Ira
>>> >
>>> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>> > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Ira,
>>> >
>>> > How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym?  DLPX makes me think of
>>> a super version of DLP projectors... :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in
>>> 'x',
>>> > > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing
>>> > > special drivers.
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers,
>>> > > - Ira
>>> > >
>>> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>> > > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>> > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>> > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>> > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>> > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>> > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>> > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards
>>> Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>> > > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" -
>>> will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed.
>>> > >
>>> > > Smith
>>> > >
>>> > > /**
>>> > >     Smith Kennedy
>>> > >     HP Inc.
>>> > > */
>>> > >
>>> > >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hi Mike,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thank you!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> +1
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions
>>> > >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous).
>>> > >>
>>> > >> JPS3 is a meaningless name.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Cheers,
>>> > >> - Ira
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>> > >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
>>> > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>> > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>> > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>> > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>> > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>> > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>> > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>> > >> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> All,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to
>>> me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed
>>> to "IPP Production Printing Extensions"
>>> > >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to
>>> "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions"
>>> > >>
>>> > >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set
>>> 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing.  I suggest we
>>> rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>     "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions"
>>> > >>
>>> > >>     "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions"
>>> > >>
>>> > >>     "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions"
>>> > >>
>>> > >>     "IPP Universal Printing Extensions"
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thoughts?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ________________________
>>> > >> Michael Sweet
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
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>>> >
>>> > ________________________
>>> > Michael Sweet
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> ________________________
>>> Michael Sweet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

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