[ippm] Side meeting for PDMv2 and HPKE
Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> Wed, 07 July 2021 03:22 UTC
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Subject: [ippm] Side meeting for PDMv2 and HPKE
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Hi IPPM, To help discuss the PDMv2 proposal, and clarify the use of HPKE, Nalini has set up a side meeting during the IETF 111 week on Wednesday July 28 at 18:00 UTC. Details are here: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/111sidemeetings <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/111sidemeetings> If you’re interested or have been engaging so far, I encourage you to show up! Best, Tommy (as IPPM co-chair) > On Jul 1, 2021, at 10:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote: > > IPPM, > > Please do take a look at this draft. > > I think that iOAM will need encryption as well. We have spent quite a bit of time thinking over these issues. We even have 2 cryptographers from Italy involved as co-authors. I want to do a side meeting where we can have quite a bit more time to discuss this but would love to have comments from the group on the list. > > I am very reluctant to push PDM out to the wider world without encryption. I feel that we will become the attacker's best friend. > We have modified the Linux kernel to include PDM but as I say, without encryption, we do not wish to release. > > > Thanks, > > Nalini Elkins > CEO and Founder > Inside Products, Inc. > www.insidethestack.com > (831) 659-8360 > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 09:06:39 AM PDT, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hello IPPMers! > > We have just posted a new draft to encrypt PDM data. We feel that this is an important feature to add before promoting widespread adoption of PDM. > > We would appreciate any thoughts or comments from the group. > > Thanks, > > Nalini Elkins > CEO and Founder > Inside Products, Inc. > www.insidethestack.com > (831) 659-8360 > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > To: mackermann@bcbsm.com <mackermann@bcbsm.com>; Adnan Rashid <adnan.rashid@unifi.it>; Ameya Deshpande <ameyanrd@gmail.com>; Michael Ackermann <mackermann@bcbsm.com>; Nalini Elkins <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com>; Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecorella@unifi.it> > Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 12:01:47 PM EDT > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-elkins-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2-00.txt > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-elkins-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Nalini Elkins and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-elkins-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2 > Revision: 00 > Title: Encrypted IPv6 Performance and Diagnostic Metrics Version 2 (EPDMv2) Destination Option > Document date: 2021-06-01 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 16 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-elkins-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-elkins-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2/ > Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-elkins-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2 > > > Abstract: > RFC8250 describes an optional Destination Option (DO) header embedded > in each packet to provide sequence numbers and timing information as > a basis for measurements. As this data is sent in clear- text, this > may create an opportunity for malicious actors to get information for > subsequent attacks. This document defines PDMv2 which has a > lightweight handshake (registration procedure) and encryption to > secure this data. Additional performance metrics which may be of use > are also defined. > > > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
- [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-elk… nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Hamilton, Robert
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Paolo Volpato
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Hamilton, Robert
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Mohit P. Tahiliani
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Ameya Deshpande
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Ameya Deshpande
- Re: [ippm] Fw: New Version Notification for draft… Ameya Deshpande
- [ippm] Side meeting for PDMv2 and HPKE Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-elk… Tommaso Pecorella
- Re: [ippm] Side meeting for PDMv2 and HPKE Ameya Deshpande