Re: [ippm] Consensus on new IPPM Charter; call for draft adoption as WG items.

El 01/04/13 23:30, Matt Mathis escribió:
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> (8) draft-bagnulo-ippm-new-registry-00, draft-bagnulo-ippm-new-registry-independent-00
> Mon Year - Submit draft on metrics registry to IESG as Proposed Standard
> I wonder if this would be a better fit for LMAP?   I think the root
> problem here is certifying implementations and operational
> interoperability,

mmm, this is not how i see this.
I mean, the goal here is to define a registry for metrics that are 
specified enough so it is practical to implement them.
Basically, if we intend to have a protocol that can instruct a 
measurement agent something like "run test number 5 with input 
parameters a,b and c" then test number 5 should be specified enough so 
that it is practical to implement it.
For exmaple, leaving an arbitraty P-type, probably in general is too 
generic to leave it open. OTOH, defining that the packet is a UDP packet 
with a variable lenght of padding (where the lentgh of the padding and 
the source and address ports are input parameters) seems like a more 
feasible approach.

So, i dont think certification of implementations is how i would phrase it.
It is certainly about interoperability, but i guess this is what the 
IETF is about.

I believe this belong to IPPM because i think expertise on the metrcis 
is critical. The idea is to define entries in the registry by narrowing 
down some of the input paramters of the metrcis that IPPM has already 
defined.

It probably could be done also in lmap, but it makes more sense to me in 
ippm, as the metrics the registry will cover have been defined here.

Regards, marcelo

>   which are not areas where we have any experience.
> IPPM has been about on the wire measurements and properties, not about
> user interfaces, etc.
> I would say no for an IPPM work item, but would support it under LMAP.
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> Thanks,
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