Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditions
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Mon, 10 January 2005 18:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditions
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>>>>> "Contreras," == Contreras, Jorge <Jorge.Contreras@wilmerhale.com> writes: Contreras,> Harald, Contreras,> I suggest that such a statement be put in an IP Contreras,> disclosure statement, just as though a patent owner Contreras,> were telling the community that it intends to license Contreras,> its patents on an RF basis. Putting such statements Contreras,> in the I-D could become very confusing. I think that this does need to belong in the ID when possible although if there are legal reasons this would be problematic I'd be delighted to listen to them. It will make it difficult for people to evaluate the licensing terms if they are scattered all over the place. Mor over, it is desirable to be able to look at a single document and conclude that you do in fact have the necessary rights to use it as you plan. That's simply not possible for patents. However for copyright it seems reasonable. Here are some differences that I found useful when coming to this conclusion: * Copyright, unlike patent claims, is unlikely to be asserted by a third party. If copyright is asserted by a third party, we may well find we are not in a position to distribute the RFC at all. * We want to avoid evaluating the validity of patent or trademark claims. For the most part we can presumptively assume that the authors of a draft do have copyright on that draft without creating a problem. --Sam _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
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- RE: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… Contreras, Jorge
- RE: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… Scott Bradner
- Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… Sam Hartman
- Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… todd.glassey
- Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… Paul Hoffman / VPNC
- Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… todd.glassey
- Re: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… todd.glassey
- RE: Copying and licensing....Re: Copying conditio… Contreras, Jorge
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