Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-author-contributors-00 (and -rfc-extracts)

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Mon, 25 July 2005 13:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-author-contributors-00 (and -rfc-extracts)
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Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>1. I assume that this cannot be made retroactive, so I think the final text will
>>need a few words that make it clear that it does not purport to change the
>>permissions for all past RFCs.
> 
> 
> Copying conditions on RFCs have been changed retroactively before.  I
> asked the RFC editor under what license RFC 1510 was published under,
> and they replied saying it was RFC 2026.  If that change was done
> properly, I don't see why a similar change cannot done be done again.

I'm not a lawyer, but I'd be interested to hear what a copyright lawyer
thinks about this.

> However, the current license disallow actions that I used to be
> permitted to do, like incorporating part of RFC 1510 in my product.

And it's exactly that sort of thing we need to fix.

> I'd rather not see licenses be changed on existing documents.

You mean not changed for the worse, presumably :-)

    Brian


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