Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-author-contributors-00.txt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Josefsson" <jas@extundo.com>
To: "Scott Bradner" <sob@harvard.edu>
Cc: <ipr-wg@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-bradner-author-contributors-00.txt

> sob@harvard.edu (Scott Bradner) writes:
>
> > I've already received a suggestion (from Chuck Adams) that the IETF
> > should get the right to use, within the IETF standards process, any
> > derivative works developed outside the IETF.
> >
> > I think this is a good idea but I think that a requirement for that
> > should go in a different section of a revised RFC 3978 since this
> > paragraph is in a section requesting rights from contributors.
>
> I think that may be a bad idea, depending on what you mean by "right
> to use".  The problem is if the legal entity of IETF goes rough, with
> the above idea, the rough IETF may end up "owning" derivative works
> developed elsewhere.

Especially with no members or methods of transferring these rights - this
also may force people to demand that the IETF actually put in place all of
the systems the boilerplate talks about PRIOR to these changes being made to
the IPR processes so that the playing field is actually level instead of
what it is today - a Good Ole Boys Club IMHO.

> It would be better if the rights needed by the
> IETF to use the work were granted to everyone ("third parties").  Then
> there would be no central control, and what happens with the legal
> entity IETF is not a concern.
>
> Exactly what rights do you want to grant the IETF for derivative works
> done outside of the IETF?  Cannot those rights be granted to everyone?
>
> > Another ID following up on the IPR WG session should be published very
> > soon now (submitted last night) that addresses the issue of making
> > extracts of RFCs for documentation, help pages etc.
>
> Looking forward to it!
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
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