Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00.txt is a newdraft
marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es> Tue, 13 November 2007 12:15 UTC
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From: marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
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Subject: Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00.txt is a newdraft
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Hi Albert, El 12/11/2007, a las 19:28, Manfredi, Albert E escribió: > > I found nothing objectionable at all in the draft. > > Matter of fact, it seems to address something that also occurs with > IPv4, with multihomed hosts. And that apparently, some OSs screw up > royally. Which is, if a multi-homed IPv4 host, connected to two > different IP subnets, transmits an IP packet over Subnet A, it > often is > found to use as source address the address assigned to its Subnet B > interface. > Please note that the situation that this draft addresses is somehow different than the one you mention, since both addresses (with possible different prefixes) can be assigned to the same interface So if different interfaces have different addresses and when the host sends a packet through a given interface using the address of the other one as source address, this is easier to solve, since you only need to honor the address assigned to the outgoing interface However when both addresses are assigned to the same interface, it is harder to do the selection and it is likely that additional (external) information is needed e.g. the next hop router or the exit ISP), which is a harder problem imho, and i guess this is what Fred's draft addresses THe result is that you end up routing packets taking into account their source address, which is different than what is done today. This basicallly means that for some packets (packet with external destiantion address) the exit ISP selection is performed by the hosts and NOT by the intra site routing system. Moreover, failures will need to be taken care of by the hosts itself, bascially retrying with a different source address While i think all this is very good, i think it is imporntat to state up fron the concequences of this change and compare them with current practices. I certainly agree with Fred with the fact that if you don't do something like this, then you rpobably will have to drop packets due to ingress filtering incopatibility Regards, marcelo > Whether or not this behavior results in total comm failure does not > preclude that is seems just plain wrong. > > I agree that calling this "source routing." or anything similar, would > be misleading. > > Bert > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
- Fwd: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-0… Fred Baker
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Fred Baker
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Havard Eidnes
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… marcelo bagnulo braun
- RE: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Fred Baker
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Pekka Savola
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… marcelo bagnulo braun
- RE: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… James Carlson
- RE: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Manfredi, Albert E
- RE: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… James Carlson
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-route-00… James Carlson
- Re: Fwd: draft-baker-6man-multiprefix-default-rou… Brian E Carpenter