Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man-universal-ra-option-03.txt
Philip Homburg <pch-ipv6-ietf-6@u-1.phicoh.com> Wed, 07 October 2020 12:47 UTC
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> Changes: > > - removed the experimental part of it. > > I think the draft is ready for working group adoption. > > Anyone else interested in this work? I think this draft is going in the wrong direction. A new RA (or DHCP) option has two aspects: syntax and semantics. What this draft does is introduce a more complex low level syntax for RA and DHCP options. I.e., the relatively simple, fixed length fields in RA and DHCP options are replaced with a generic, compressed, self-describing format. However, the complete syntax for an option still needs the names of fields, use of arrays and dicts, etc. Beyond that, encoding options in CBOR does nothing for the semantics of an option. And it seems to me that most of the discussion is regarding semantics. I think that encoding options in CBOR can have two benefits: 1) it makes it possible to have experimental options without explictly allocating code points from a small space to those options. 2) it make things possible that are hard to express in the current option format, .i.e options with optional fields, multiple variable length lists, etc. So the text: "While this proposal does not resolve the DHCP vs RA debate, it "proposes a solution to the problem of a very slow process of "standardizing new options, and the IETF spending an inordinate "amount of time arguing over new configuration options. is not clear to me. It seems to me that any standards track option would still require an RFC that defines the option's syntax and semantics. At the same time, if we feel that there are not enough code points to have options defined by individual informational RFCs, then that is something that can be addressed in other ways as well.
- Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6ma… otroan
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan… Philip Homburg
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… otroan
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Philip Homburg
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… otroan
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… otroan
- RE: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Philip Homburg
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ole Troan
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ole Troan
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Brian Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… otroan
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-troan-6man… Ted Lemon
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan… Nick Hilliard
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-troan… Michael Richardson