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Re: Time for RFC6874bis...

Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 16 June 2022 10:27 UTC

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From: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 22:27:00 +1200
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Subject: Re: Time for RFC6874bis...
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
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I think %25 is condemned to failure, but %2525 would work, if you have an
interface "25”. IE supports RFC6874, not 6874bis.

Regards,
    Brian Carpenter
    (via tiny screen & keyboard)


On Thu, 16 Jun 2022, 20:53 Alexandre Petrescu, <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Le 10/06/2022 à 06:04, Brian E Carpenter a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > The only browser running today that supports IPv6 link-local literals,
> > Internet Explorer, is about to be forcibly removed:
> >
> > "Internet Explorer retires on June 15, 2022, after which IE will be out
> > of support. Following industry best practices, the IE desktop
> > application will be progressively redirected to Microsoft Edge over the
> > following months, and will ultimately be permanently disabled via a
> > future Windows Update..."
> >
> > Without comment on "industry best practices", I think we should proceed
> > with rfc6874bis at warp speed.
>
> Hi,
>
> For what it is worth:
>
> I have just tried Internet Explorer on my Windows.
>
> For the URL https://[fe80::1%25], IE pops up a window asking to verify
> the syntax and retry (literally, in French "Windows ne peut pas trouver
> « https://[fe80::1%25] ».  Vérifiez l'orthographe et recommencez").
>
> For the URL https://[fe80::1] IE then starts Chrome, due to a local
> policy.
>
> Then I tried Edge, the successor of IE.  It does not accept that %25
> either.
>
> Alex
>
>
> >
> >    Brian
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