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Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 08 May 2019 17:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675-00.txt]
From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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Hi, > On May 8, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote: > >> Hello 6man, >> >> We have put this together to change the status of RFC2675 to Historic >> and would like to request discussion in the working group. > > IPv6 jumbograms was intended for some super computer inter connect with a massive MTU. > I don't know of any use of it, but is it harmful if the specification is left there in place? > Are there any current network interfaces that can support packets larger than 65,535 octets? As I remember, it was intended for network interfaces like hyperchannel that could support packets larger than 65,535. Did we every define an IPv6 over Hyperchannel specification? As a co-author of RFC2675, I am OK with making it historic. It was very limited in use when first defined, and hasn’t gotten better. Thanks, Bob > I don't expect any implementation supporting it unless they also support data-link layers with an MTU > 64K. > Or is that the problem you are trying to solve, that a TCP implementation must handle datagrams larger than 64K? > Is there any other solution? > > Cheers, > Ole > > >> ----- Forwarded message from internet-drafts@ietf.org ----- >> >> Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 05:30:11 -0700 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Tom Jones <tom@erg.abdn.ac.uk>, Godred Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>, Gorry Fairhurst >> <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675-00.txt >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Tom Jones and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675 >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Change Status of RFC 2675 to Historic >> Document date: 2019-05-08 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 12 >> URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675-00.txt >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675/ >> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675-00 >> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-jones-6man-historic-rfc2675 >> >> >> Abstract: >> This document changes the status of RFC2675, IPv6 Jumbograms, from >> Proposed Standard to Historic. >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > --------------------------------------------------------------------
- [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notificati… Tom Jones
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Ole Troan
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… 神明達哉
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Bob Hinden
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Dale W. Carder
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Mark Smith
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Tom Jones
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Tom Jones
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Ole Troan
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Dale W. Carder
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Doug Barton
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Tim Chown
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Erik Kline
- Re: [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notifi… Gyan Mishra