Re: draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Tue, 14 August 2012 16:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format
From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:09 AM,  <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm initiating this thread in the hope of understanding the
> objections from the 6man WG and hopefully to make some progress for
> this document.  To initiate the discussion, below are provided some
> preliminary Q/A:
>
> What is the scope of this document?
>    The document specifies an algorithmic translation of an IPv6
>    multicast address to a corresponding IPv4 multicast address, and
>    vice versa.  The document reserves two IPv6 multicast prefixes to
>    be used for that purpose.
>
> What are these reserved prefixes?
>    *  ff3x:0:8000::/96 for SSM
>    *  ffxx:8000::/20 for ASM
>
> Does this document update IPv6 addressing architecture?
>    No.
>
> Is there a unicast counterpart of this proposal?
>    Yes, RFC6052.
>
> What is the problem to be solved?
>    There are several use cases as detailed in [I-D.ietf-mboned-v4v6-
>    mcast-ps].  In particular, the following use cases are of
>    interest:
>    1.  An IPv6-only receiver wants to receive multicast content from
>        an IPv4-only source (6-4).
>    2.  An IPv4 receiver wants to join a multicast group in IPv4
>        domain via an IPv6-only network (4-6-4).
>
> Are there solutions for the unicast counterpart of these use cases?
>    Yes; various solutions including:
>    1.  6-4: RFC6146
>    2.  4-6-4: RFC6333, RFC6346, ...


I don't understand why RFC 6333 is included here.
If you take a look at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-softwire-dslitemulticast-01
there is no need for this draft.

Related to this is this statement in the abstract:

This
   algorithmic translation can be used in both IPv4-IPv6 translation or
   encapsulation schemes.

I suggest removing encapsulation from the above sentence.

I have concerns on the way this draft justifies these new prefixes. I
think the justification should be completely based on translation. If
this basis is taken, the rest of the text will flow naturally.

Regards,

Behcet