Re: Apology

Dear Lee,

No apology needed. Thank you, and accepted (of course).

You do bring up some valid points though and conflict triggers soul searching.
For myself, I have taken it for granted that it is obvious when I express my views as a WG participant, and when I do it as a chair.
To clarify, the protocol I follow: By default I act as an individual working group participants. Communication as a chair should be signed with that, and typically comes from both Bob and me. This is similar to the case in live meetings where we join the floor microphone queue, instead of talking from the podium.

See also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2418#section-6.1

I think it would be very unfortunate if the chairs could not participate in the work of the working group, but were relegated to a pure management/administrative role.

There is of course an area of conflict where a chair’s personal view, conflicts with the consensus position of the working group. I hope you still trust that between the chairs and our AD, that we manage to do the right thing.

6man is a long lived working group, tasked with maintaining the IPv6 specifications. That’s different from the typical IETF working group. Perhaps it is time to have a wider debate about how the working group should function and what it’s role should be.

Best regards,
Ole

> On 21 Feb 2019, at 21:36, Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> wrote:
> 
> The other day, I had some harsh words for Ole. I apologize.
> 
> I have strong opinions on parts of this thread, and have not felt "heard," which is no excuse for my message to the list. I agree with Bob that I was unreasonable in my interpretation of Ole's position, and my email was unfair.
> 
> I respect Ole, and appreciate the depth of his knowledge and the significant contribution he makes and has made to this working group. I also like him, and have enjoyed discussion and collaboration with him. In this case, I let my frustration that we seemed not to be developing consensus color my response to him.
> 
> I'm sorry for degrading the conversation with that message. I will stay focused on the technical topics, and try to find ways to understand and be understood. If I have concerns about leadership in any part of the IETF in the future, I will raise those concerns privately. I'm sorry, Ole, for being a jerk to you.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Lee Howard
> 
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