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Re: Apology

Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan@go6.si> Wed, 27 February 2019 12:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: Apology
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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From: Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan@go6.si>
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On 26/02/2019 22:40, Bob Hinden wrote:
> Might start with looking at the working group charter:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6man/about/

Bob, hi...

Charter seems to say the right things ;)

Cheers, Jan

> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:57 AM, Jan Zorz - Go6 <jan@go6.si> wrote:
>>
>> On 26/02/2019 17:00, Fernando Gont wrote:
>>> On 26/2/19 12:35, Jan Zorz - Go6 wrote:
>>>> Dear @all,
>>>>
>>>> On 25/02/2019 09:37, Ole Troan wrote:> 6man is a long lived working
>>>> group, tasked with maintaining the IPv6
>>>>> specifications. That’s different from the typical IETF working group.
>>>>> Perhaps it is time to have a wider debate about how the working group
>>>>> should function and what it’s role should be.
>>>>
>>>> This is an important discussion to have. Can we define first what
>>>> exactly "maintaining the IPv6 specifications" mean?
>>> Normally maintenance has to do with addressing problems/flaws found in
>>> the specs and/or operationally. -- which is essentially what we are
>>> doing here.
>>> As a datapoint, e.g., tcpm, for one of the most widely-deployed
>>> protocols (almost 40 years old) there has been a fair share of work,
>>> ranging from generation and processing of sequence numbers and ack
>>> numbers (e.g. RFC6528 and RFC5961), definitions of new options,
>>> deprecation of features (e.g. URG indications), changing the initial
>>> window, changing RTO values, etc.
>>> Not sure what the debate wuld be about with respect to what
>>> "maintenance" is about.
>>
>> Well, my response was aimed at Ole's "Perhaps it is time to have a wider debate about how the working group should function and what it’s role should be."
>>
>> Maybe the first thing to figure out is what version of meaning of "maintenance" we would like to use and that could set a nice path forward for a discussion that Ole proposed.
>>
>> Cheers, Jan
>>
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