Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-insertion-harmful-00.txt

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Sun, 13 October 2019 00:53 UTC

Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-insertion-harmful-00.txt
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From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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It seems to me, given the problems with the open internet that
Because I want to
and I think I have made everything safe for it

does not constitute a good reason for violating an RFC.  particularly 
one that was extensively discussed.
If the draft actually provided a significant reason for wanting the 
exception, we could debate the risks versus benefits.  But it does not 
do so.

Hence, Brian, I think you are cutting them more slack than they have earned.

Yours,
Joel

On 10/12/2019 8:08 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> Brian E Carpenter wrote on 12/10/2019 23:15:
>> EH insertion for packets that traverse the open Internet is certainly 
>> harmful and violates RFC 8200
> 
> How does the packet know whether it's the open internet or a controlled 
> domain?
> 
> Nick
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Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Brian E Carpenter
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Nick Hilliard
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Brian E Carpenter
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Joel M. Halpern
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Mark Smith
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Nick Hilliard
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Gyan Mishra
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Gyan Mishra
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Brian E Carpenter
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Nick Hilliard
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Mark Smith
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Brian E Carpenter
Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh… li zhenqiang
Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh… Mark Smith
Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh… Mark Smith
Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh… li zhenqiang
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Stewart Bryant
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Mark Smith
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Fernando Gont
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Mark Smith
Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh… Gyan Mishra
Re: I-D Action: draft-smith-6man-in-flight-eh-ins… Fernando Gont