Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 16 August 2017 17:26 UTC
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To: Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org>
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Subject: Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:26:20 -0400
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Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote: > Think of RFC3315 as an example. Should it have a forward reference to > every DHCP option? Yes. Having worked on rfc3315bis, that would have been a great thing to have. Did we need to merge them all into 3315bis? No, but we did need to look at them to see if they used some feature. Maybe we could have removed some unused feature from 3315 because it was never used. > Don't assume implementors are idiots. The reason why they don't do what > you want are typically not because of lack of intelligence or reading > skills. ;-) Implementors generally work for idiots called "Product Marketing" -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by (was: [Editorial … Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Robert Sparks
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by (was: [Editorial … Toerless Eckert
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Toerless Eckert
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Joel M. Halpern
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mark Andrews
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Sander Steffann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Sander Steffann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Philip Homburg
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Sander Steffann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Sander Steffann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Sander Steffann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Sander Steffann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Timothy Winters
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mark Andrews
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Carsten Bormann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by David Farmer
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Brian E Carpenter
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Carsten Bormann
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Michael Richardson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Ole Troan
- Re: RFC 4861 missing updated-by Mikael Abrahamsson