RE: Review of draft-ietf-6man-hbh-header-handling-01

Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Mon, 07 March 2016 22:44 UTC

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From: Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
Subject: RE: Review of draft-ietf-6man-hbh-header-handling-01
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Brian,

That's OK by me.

                         Ron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 11:07 PM
> To: Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com>; Fernando Gont
> <fgont@si6networks.com>
> Cc: 6man@ietf.org; draft-ietf-6man-hbh-header-handling@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Review of draft-ietf-6man-hbh-header-handling-01
> 
> On 07/03/2016 11:33, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> > Something to discuss wth the chairs, I suppose. The first question is
> whether 2460bis is ready about when it is, or one is later.
> >
> > I'd like to believe this is close to done, and I suspect Bob would like to
> believe 2460bis is close to done.... If so, the chairs may prefer to somehow
> incorporate it into 2460bis and ship it.
> 
> I don't see that happening, because 2460bis is supposed to be aimed at
> Internet Standard status and that requires solid operational experience for all
> features. hbh-header-handling is some years from that situation,
> unfortunately. So I can only see it as a Proposed Standard update to the
> future Internet Standard.
> 
> (You may recall draft-loughney-newtrk-one-size-fits-all. I always thought that
> would have saved us a lot of bureaucracy.)
> 
>    Brian
> 
> >> On Mar 5, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 03/04/2016 07:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Also, I would suggest sequencing this draft to come out *after* 2460bis.
> >>> It might have the distinction of being the first RFC to update 2460bis.
> >>
> >> Not that I like to point this out, but...
> >> One one hand, if we're working on rfc2460bis, then one would argue
> >> that if we're to intentionally stall
> >> draft-ietf-6man-hbh-header-handling so that it gets published after
> >> rfc2460bis, then why not incorporate it in rfc2460bis?
> >>
> >> I'd expect that this doc is published soon & as is: It updates
> >> RFC2460... and then rfc2460bis picks RFC2460 plus updates.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fernando Gont
> >> SI6 Networks
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