Re: draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast WGLC
Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Tue, 17 August 2010 16:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast WGLC
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Hemant, On 8/17/10 11:37 AM, Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Haberman [mailto:brian@innovationslab.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:59 AM > To: Ole Troan > Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant); Sri Gundavelli (sgundave); Suresh Krishnan; > IPv6 WG Mailing List > Subject: Re: Consensus call on > adopting:draft-krishnan-6man-rs-mark-06.txt > > >> Correct. The MLD snooping functionality only looks at L3 information > if >> the L2 destination address is a multicast address. In this case, L2 > has >> a unicast address and the MLD snooping function will never see the >> packet (it will be forwarded using standard L2 logic). I do not grok this scenario. Let me see if I can understand what you are concerned about. > > Brian, I changed the subject back to the Gundavelli document. I am > saying a host sent an MLDv2 Report to a router. There is no network > switch between this host and the router. Now with the rule in the > Gundavelli document, the host sent the MLDv2 Report with the L3 > multicast destination but L2 unicast destination. The L2 sniffer on the > router fails to capture this packet and fails to forward the packet to > its ULP (Upper Layer Protocol) for multicast. So now the packet is > shipped to the unicast ULP. Why can't the unicast ULP barf that it > received a packet with a L3 destination when it's a unicast ULP? Why > shouldn't we test such a case with a router and a host sending such a > doctored MLDv2 Report? One should use more than one router to test such > a case. Or am I missing something - if yes, my humble apologies. A host generates an MLDv2 Report message that expresses interest in receiving multicast traffic on group X. The destination address in the IPv6 header will be the All-MLDv2-Routers address (FF02::16). However, the Gundavelli draft allows the node to set the destination L2 address to a unicast address of the only router on the link. The host transmits this message. Now, what I see you arguing above is that the router will receive this message, but may try and pass it to a *different* ULP. I think we agree that the router will receive the packet since it is addressed to one of its L2 addresses. Now, when it is parsing this message I don't see how the L2 destination address will have any impact on which protocol this message is handed to. All the routing platforms I am familiar with follow a coarse (and high-level) logic like: 1. Verify L2 validity (e.g., checksum) 2. Pass packet to protocol handler based on e.g., ethertype 3. For IPv6, parse Next Header field 4. Process MLDv2 Report So, I can't see a scenario where the L2 destination address interferes with the proper handling of the L3 information. Regards, Brian
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wes Beebee
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6man-rs… Brian Haberman
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Sri Gundavelli
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Sri Gundavelli
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Fred Baker
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Ole Troan
- AW: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Olaf.Bonness
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available Hesham Soliman
- Re: draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast WGLC Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Brian Haberman
- Re: draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast WGLC Brian Haberman
- RE: draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast WGLC Hemant Singh (shemant)
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wojciech Dec
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wojciech Dec
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wojciech Dec
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Ole Troan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Ole Troan
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wojciech Dec
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Ole Troan
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wojciech Dec
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Brian Haberman
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Wojciech Dec
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Thomas Narten
- RE: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Soininen, Jonne (NSN-FI/Espoo)
- Re: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… jouni korhonen
- AW: Consensus call on adopting:draft-krishnan-6ma… Olaf.Bonness
- New version available (Was Re: Consensus call on … Suresh Krishnan
- RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus call … Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Wojciech Dec
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Thomas Narten
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Wojciech Dec
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available Mark Smith
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Wojciech Dec
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Thomas Narten
- RE: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: New version available Mark Smith
- RE: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Thomas Narten
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Thomas Narten
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Ralph Droms
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Thomas Narten
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Ralph Droms
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Ralph Droms
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Thomas Narten
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Suresh Krishnan
- RE: RS Lost failure scenario (Was Re: Consensus c… Laganier, Julien
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK)
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Doug Barton
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Mark Smith
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Ralph Droms
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Laganier, Julien
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Doug Barton
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Doug Barton
- Re: New version available sthaug
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Thomas Narten
- Re: New version available Joel M. Halpern
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Ralph Droms
- Re: New version available Doug Barton
- Re: New version available sthaug
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Wojciech Dec
- Re: SLAAC or not Mikael Abrahamsson
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Mark Smith
- Re: New version available Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Laganier, Julien
- XP, IPv6 and DNS (was Re: New version available (… Karl Auer
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK)
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK)
- Re: New version available Fred Baker
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… JOSHI, SHRINIVAS ASHOK (SHRINIVAS ASHOK)
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Fred Baker
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Alan Kavanagh
- Re: New version available Fred Baker
- Re: New version available sthaug
- Re: New version available Mark Smith
- Re: New version available Christopher Morrow
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Christopher Morrow
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- RE: New version available Laganier, Julien
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Fred Baker
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available sthaug
- RE: New version available Maglione Roberta
- Re: New version available Tina TSOU
- RE: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- RE: New version available Maglione Roberta
- Re: New version available sthaug
- AW: New version available Olaf.Bonness
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Jari Arkko
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Wojciech Dec
- Re: New version available t.petch
- Re: New version available Doug Barton
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mark Smith
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Doug Barton
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Ralph Droms
- RE: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Laganier, Julien
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mark Smith
- Re: AW: New version available Randy Bush
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available Fred Baker
- Re: New version available Randy Bush
- Re: New version available Fred Baker
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Fred Baker
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available (Was Re: Consensus call… Jari Arkko
- Re: New version available Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mark Smith
- Re: SLAAC or not sthaug
- Re: SLAAC or not Brian E Carpenter
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: SLAAC or not sthaug
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mark Smith
- Re: SLAAC or not Mark Smith
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: SLAAC or not [Re: New version available] Fred Baker
- Re: AW: New version available John Jason Brzozowski
- AW: New version available Olaf.Bonness
- Re: AW: New version available Ole Troan
- Re: AW: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- AW: AW: New version available Olaf.Bonness
- Re: New version available Wojciech Dec
- Re: New version available Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: AW: AW: New version available Ole Troan
- AW: New version available Olaf.Bonness
- Re: AW: New version available Suresh Krishnan
- Re: AW: AW: New version available Suresh Krishnan
- Re: AW: New version available Ole Troan
- RE: AW: New version available Jason.Weil
- Re: AW: AW: New version available Ole Troan
- Re: AW: New version available John Jason Brzozowski
- RE: AW: New version available Jason.Weil
- Re: AW: New version available John Jason Brzozowski
- Re: AW: New version available Suresh Krishnan
- Re: New version available Hesham Soliman
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version avai… Ole Troan
- RE: New version available Manfredi, Albert E
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Ole Troan
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Hesham Soliman
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Rémi Després
- Re: New version available Randy Bush
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- RE: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Rémi Després
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Randy Bush
- RE: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Christian Huitema
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Randy Bush
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Karl Auer
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Doug Barton
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Brian E Carpenter
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Doug Barton
- Re: New version available Hesham Soliman
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Hesham Soliman
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Hesham Soliman
- Re: New version available Hesham Soliman
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Rémi Després
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Rémi Després
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Hesham Soliman
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Randy Bush
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Arnaud Ebalard
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Randy Bush
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Karl Auer
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Christopher Morrow
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mohacsi Janos
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Arnaud Ebalard
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Francis Dupont
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- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: New version available Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: New version available Benny Amorsen
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mark Smith
- Re: New version available Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: New version available Benny Amorsen
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Arnaud Ebalard
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Philip Homburg
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Sander Steffann
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mark Smith
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Philip Homburg
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Philip Homburg
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … james woodyatt
- Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version … Thomas Narten
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