[Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded property
Benoit Tellier <btellier@linagora.com> Mon, 03 April 2017 09:13 UTC
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Subject: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded property
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Hello, At Linagora, we tend to consider **forward** information as important for the email we care about. Today, it is not part of the RFC-3501 spec, and many IMAP implementations handle it with the de-facto standard $Forwarded flag. This implicit standard is a bad thing, and we truly would like the JMAP mail protocol to do this right. To be right, it should be explicit. We then propose this pull request: It reproduces the behavior of **answered** feature: - Adds a **isForwarded** message property - Adds a mechanism for automatically marking messages as forwarded upon sending emails - Clarifies interactions between isForwarded and threads - Makes isForwarded searchable Does this proposal make sense to you? Best regards, Benoit Tellier ----------------------------- Software engineer at Linagora PMC on Apache JAMES Le 01/04/2017 à 06:23, Dave Crocker a écrit : > G'day, > > The working group meeting discussion about a static message, dynamic > annotation, etc., resonated with a variety of similar discussions I've > been around over the years (dating back to the mid-1970.) > > A simpler version equates the constructs of message and document, as > two views of the same thing. (Ie, Document with attributes; Message > with a body.) > > The essence is to consider the nature and relationship of the objects, > possibly permitting different semantics for the same set of objects, > according to different applications or roles. > > That is, there can be a variety of constituent objects that are > associated and can be viewed according to different semantics (or > views)... So a message, a document, a calendar entry, a series of > comments, etc. Each object has associated processing rules (eg, > static vs. editable vs. executable; constrained choice of values; > organization into folders or other schemas...) > > An environment like this can be powerful and very appealing. The > challenge tends to be staying practical: With no effort at all it > devolves into an abstract computer science exercise. Some of that is > an efficiency issue(*) but I think it's mostly about the human > manageability for design and operations. > > Based on both the years of commercial use and the public commentary > about the performance, I've no doubt the fastmail system does not > suffer these downsides. But it's a potential that this re-casting > through the IETF could easily suffer. > > I'm posting this note partly because I think it would exciting to > produce specs that permit a degree of flexibility that such an > approach permits, but also wanted to cite the dangers. > > At the moment, I'm guessing there needs to be a small number of basic > object types and a small number of 'relationship' types that define > the association between objects. These could then be combined into > higher-order, formal organizations/semantics the define an application > semantic (mail, calendar, whatever.) > > > d/ > > (*) A system I did in 1977 has a little bit of this and the extremely > pure design produced impressively horrible performance. >
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jhaveri
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Chris Newman
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Adrien de Croy
- [Jmap] Spencer Dawkins' No Objection on charter-i… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jhaveri
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- [Jmap] message vs. annotation Dave Crocker
- [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded property Benoit Tellier
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Benoit Tellier
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Chris Newman
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Benoit Tellier
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Benoit Tellier
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Chris Newman
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] message vs. annotation Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] message vs. annotation Ted Lemon
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Benoit Tellier
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Chris Newman
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Neil Jenkins
- Re: [Jmap] Adding the Message::isForwarded proper… Alexey Melnikov