Re: [Jsonpath] JSONPath draft charter

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Sun, 13 September 2020 03:40 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 20:39:47 -0700
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Works for me too. Going back to DISPATCH with this is the next step,
correct?

If so, fire when ready.

-MSK

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:17 PM Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:

> Works for me.
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:08 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2020-09-02, at 19:54, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I made https://github.com/jsonpath-wg/charter/pull/2 to say changes to
>> JMESPath and JSON Pointer are not contemplated. I actually don't have much
>> of an opinion as to whether this is an improvement, so I'm OK either way.
>>
>> I think the IESG usually wants much stronger language than “not
>> contemplated” for the charter exclusions.  For me, that is already implicit
>> in the statement of what it does do, so this language might even be a step
>> backwards.
>>
>> I would simply say “These are out of scope for the WG” at the end of the
>> penultimate paragraph, but that may not be entirely true either:
>> We may want to describe the two-way mapping between JSON Pointer and
>> JSONPath for a subset (or an important part of that subset) where that
>> two-way mapping exists.
>>
>> So that would make it:
>>
>> > These approaches are out of scope for the WG, except that it may be
>> > useful to describe the mapping between subsets of JSON Pointer and
>> > JSONPath.
>>
>> (If that turns out to be a bad restriction, we can always ask for a
>> recharter later, so there is no need for weaselwords.)
>>
>> Now https://github.com/jsonpath-wg/charter/pull/3
>>
>> Grüße, Carsten
>>
>>