Re: [karp] Karp Agenda 2: KeyStore?

Vishwas Manral <vishwas.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 22 March 2010 23:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [karp] Karp Agenda 2: KeyStore?
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Gregory/ Tim,

I agree with Gregory regarding having the presentation at the KARP meeting.

I scanned through the Polk draft. One comment is that the Long lived
Crypto Keys stillneed to be changed manually.

Another comment is Session Acceptance diagram has a Key Id while the
Session Initiation does not.

Some things to think of are what needs to be done when both sides
initiate the connection at the same time. The document also does not
talk about how the short term keys are changed.

Thanks,
Vishwas

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Gregory Lebovitz
<gregory.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Polk, William T. <william.polk@nist.gov>
> wrote:
>>
>> Gregory,
>>
>> There has really been no change to those documents since Hiroshima, so I
>> did not suggest a presentation.  (We simply haven’t received any suggestion
>> to change them.)  I do have karp on my schedule and will be in the room.
>
> I'll leave it to the chairs to decide. Since the last preso was a BoF, it
> may make sense to do it again, if only to push people to read and review and
> provide input.
>
>>
>> I think that maintaining them as separate documents is advisable, given
>> their simplicity...
>
> If there is applicability outside of karp-framework, then I agree. If the
> applicability is only w/in the karp-framework, then I'd suggest we suck it
> into the "KeyStore" section of that document. But I haven't thought too much
> about it until just now, sitting here with Bill Atwood, working on slides
> and open issues / open sections.
> Bill will have this as an open question on his slides and we can discuss in
> WG. WFY?
> Gregory
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/10 2:11 PM, "Gregory M. Lebovitz" <gregory.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> KARPies, Tim & Russ,
>> I notice that the current agenda for KARP does NOT include a presentation
>> by Tim/Russ on their documents that defines in more detail what
>> draft-ietf-karp-framework calls the KeyStore. I'm thinking that would be a
>> good thing to have presented again (it was presented at the BoF already
>> once), because we need to decide if these become WG documents, or how to
>> proceed them.
>>
>> Those documents are:
>> draft-housley-saag-crypto-key-table-01
>> draft-polk-saag-rtg-auth-keytable-02
>>
>> Another question is:  "Do these documents serve better as stand-alone, or
>> ought they be incorporated into the karp-framework document"
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Gregory.
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