Re: KITTEN: IETF 75 - 76
Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com> Thu, 03 September 2009 16:20 UTC
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:31:16 -0500
From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
To: Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: KITTEN: IETF 75 - 76
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On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 10:45:01AM -0400, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > Really, I think we have three options here: > > 1) Assume POSIX threads(*). > 2) Assume POSIX threads(*), but allow the existence of an implementation > dependent means of indicating use of some other threading model. (2) is feasible. You simply provide completion callbacks and say that they must be async-signal-safe. > 3) Recognize that there is no sane way to provide an portable async API > without either a portable threading model or a portable event model, > and give up. Applications which want to call the GSS-API in an > asynchronous manner can simulate it by running the GSS-API call in > its own thread (under a platform-specific thread model). 4) Assume file descriptors and one or more of poll(), select(), /dev/poll, kevent, event ports, ... Since (3) works today I'm very tempted to do nothing. > (*) This means "you can't have this API unless you have threads". > Unfortunately, it also means we're in the unenviable position of pushing > an API which requires the use of threads but is not itself MT-safe. The GSS-API is not inherently MT-unsafe. Its MT-safety is not defined -- _that_ is a problem. (Should one lock around per-msg token functions called with the same security context handle?) Nico --
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