Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in secure DNS
Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Tue, 15 September 2015 15:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in secure DNS
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 07:30:30AM +0000, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > Text strings used to be handy for realm names in DNS when associated > SRV records were plausibly optional. These days, the REALM *should* > be a DNS name. Therefore, a simpler design would be: > > ; Realm mapping per-host reduces lookup latency > ; > _kerberos.host.name.example.com. IN PTR EXAMPLE.COM. Clever. I like this a lot. For ASCII labels we even get the correct case, whatever the server returns. For IDNs, well, we haven't crossed that river yet for Kerberos. > ; "Fallback" realm mapping at ancestor domain > ; > _kerberos.example.com. IN PTR EXAMPLE.COM. The problem with the fallback thing is that we don't know how many labels up to go, if any. Should example.com. have an A RR but no _kerberos.example.com., should we go ask com. what example.com.'s realm should be? Clearly not, but now try constructing a general rule... > ; Associated SRV records > ; > _kerberos._udp.example.com. IN SRV 0 100 88 kdc.example.com. > _kerberos._tcp.example.com. IN SRV 0 100 88 kdc.example.com. > > This does not require a new RR type, PTR will do. +1 Nico --
- [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in se… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Greg Hudson
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Greg Hudson
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Martin Rex
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Watson Ladd
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams