Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in secure DNS
mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Wed, 16 September 2015 14:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in secure DNS
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Greg Hudson wrote: > On 09/15/2015 03:09 AM, Rick van Rein wrote: >> >> So... it may be reasonable to assume that any KREALM client could >> work with multiple realms, because they will normally be KDCs. >> And that'd mean we wouldn't need this priority or go-for-this-one flag. >> Agreed? > > A KDC can only return one referral, so I'm not sure what it would do > with multiple realms, with or without priorities. Perhaps I'm missing > something. KDCs and client may have substantially different requirements/purposes. With traditional Kerberos, a service can only have one unique Kerberos principal name (in exactly one Kerberos Realm). So for users from different locations, which locally authenticate via Kerberos, accessing a central (cross-location or cross-organization) service traditionally requires Kerberos realm to trust each other and transparent cross-location / cross-organization access for some very dangerous network protocols. (dns: upd/53, ldap: udp/389, kerberos: udp/88 and tcp/88) Conceptually, setting up a central service with seperate/distinct service principals from each remote location/organization totally obviates creating long-distance kerberos realm trust relationships along with the dangerous network protocols. In our own Single Sign-On solution, with our own implementation of the relevant server-side AP_REQ processing we currently support the concurrent use of kerberos service principals from seperate/independent Kerberos Realms, and it is actively being used by customers. -Martin
- [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in se… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Greg Hudson
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Greg Hudson
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Martin Rex
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Watson Ladd
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams