Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in secure DNS
Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 16 September 2015 19:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in secure DNS
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 06:08:43PM +0000, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > so indeed PTR is not case-preserving. The choice is to use "TXT" > which is already supported by both MIT and Heimdal, or to bite the > bullet and define realms as being domain names, and if two strings > are the same valid domain name, then they are the same realm. Certainly there's no harm in describing the TXT RR approach (as implemented) in an Informative RFC. I do think we should define domain-style realm names as being domainnames, which means they must be treated case-insensitively by KDCs and services. That's not new: WIndows and AD do this. Since it can be a breaking change for apps that do name-based authorization, it's useful to "canonicalize" realm names at the service (acceptors), and preferably where possible at the client (kinit, pam_krb5, alike). > I still see no advantage in introducing KREALM. Just needlessly > less usable than TXT. Because of the middle-box problems, right? Agreed. Nico --
- [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors in se… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Greg Hudson
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Greg Hudson
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Martin Rex
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Watson Ladd
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Rick van Rein
- Re: [kitten] Finding Kerberos Realm Descriptors i… Nico Williams