RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft
"Voigt, Norbert" <norbert.voigt@siemens.com> Thu, 06 April 2006 12:21 UTC
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Hi Wojciech, I'm quite comfortable with the changes after the BOF session. There is one highly desired goal and that's accordance with DSLF scope (in that context). I guess it's hardly to achieve as well, but we should start using the same wording, e.g. the names of the use cases. Please check the revised version of WT-147 (dslf2006.147.01 from March 17th) that reflects the agreed scope and wording. Do you think this would be feasible? Regards, Norbert. -----Original Message----- From: Wojciech Dec (wdec) [mailto:wdec@cisco.com] Sent: Montag, 27. März 2006 16:15 To: l2cp@ietf.org Subject: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Hello All, Following last week's BoF and the collected feedback we have gone and revised the charter which is now re-proposed below. The name of the WG is in the process of being discussed and it's clear that it will NOT be L2CP, so please substitute L2CP with whatever is your preferred acronym while reading the draft. In order to put together the charter into shape in a reasonably timely manner I would encourage all interested parties to provide a prompt review, feedback and discussion. Once we have a proposal that's acceptable we will be putting the draft to a group "final call", tentatively aiming for approximately 2 weeks from now. Regards, Woj. -------------------WG CHARTER (DRAFT)------------------------ Layer 2 Control Protocol (L2CP) Current Status: Non-existing Working Group Chair(s): Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel.co.uk) Wojciech Dec (wdec@cisco.com) Internet Area Director(s): Mark Townsley <markt@cisco.com> Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Technical Advisor(s): TBD <tbd> Secretary(ies): TBD <tbd> Area Specific Mailing List: int-area@ietf.org Mailing Lists: General Discussion: l2cp@ietf.org To Subscribe: l2cp-request@ietf.org In Body: subscribe your_email_address Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/l2cp/index.html Description of the charter for this WG: The purpose of the L2CP WG is to standardize an IP based Layer 2 control protocol (L2CP) for use in service provider access and aggregation type networks. The protocol is to be inter-operable among a wide set of multi-vendor devices, including but not limited to Access Nodes and Network Access Server (NAS) nodes e.g. Broadband Network Gateways (BNGs). L2CP is intended to addresses the requirement for a bidirectional, IP-based protocol that operates across a number of access and aggregation network technologies e.g. Ethernet, ATM. The goal of a L2CP message exchange is to convey status and control information between access devices and one or more other NAS devices without going through intermediate element managers. An example of this is the transmission of an access loop rate information from the edge access node to a NAS device tasked with shaping traffic to that rate. A further example is to trigger a local action on an access device, such as the initiation of a local port testing mechanism. L2CP will address the following use-cases: - Access Link Discovery Various queuing and scheduling mechanisms are used in access networks to avoid congestion while dealing with multiple flows with distinct QoS requirements. Such mechanisms require that a NAS node gains knowledge of particular access-loop characteristics e.g. DSL sync Rate. The layer 2 control protocol is intended to convey this information between the access node and a NAS node. - Line Configuration Following dynamic line identification (subscriber local loop), assisted by the mechanism described in the access link discovery use case, a NAS node could then query a subscriber OSS system (e.g. RADIUS server) to retrieve subscriber service profiles relating to the subscriber line. L2CP is intended to simplify the OSS infrastructure for service management, allowing subscriber-related service data to be maintained in fewer repositories (e.g. RADIUS server back-end database) while avoiding complex cross-organization interactions. - Remote Connectivity Test Traditional DSL broadband access networks employ point-to-point ATM circuits between a DSL modem and a NAS. In such an environment, troubleshooting of the local loop and aggregation network can be achieved by means of end-to-end ATM loopbacks. With the increasing deployment of Ethernet in the aggregation network, operators require consistent methods to test and troubleshoot connectivity for mixed Ethernet and ATM access networks (including the local loop). L2CP will allow a remote procedure for the local loop connectivity test to be triggered from the NAS and the results communicated back to the NAS. - Multicast Various mechanisms have been defined to create multicast replication in the access nodes. There is a need to control multicast replication in the access node, and to communicate multicast state between the access node and the NAS node in order to allow, for example, centralized policy control. L2CP will address security aspects of the control protocol, including the trust model between NAS nodes and access nodes. The protocol will work with typical redundancy schemes for subscriber service nodes and will be resilient to network failures. The protocol design will not preclude other uses of L2CP. The working group will define a framework and set of requirements, and will investigate and define a solution for an IP based Layer 2 control protocol that is robust, reliable and scalable. L2CP will be based on extensions to existing protocols, although the working group must justify its choice. The initial proposal for L2CP is based on a subset of GSMPv3. L2CP will not address the signaling of any type of VCs used in the underlying aggregation network. Goals and Milestones: July 2006 Accept WG I-D for L2CP Framework / Requirements July 2006 Accept WG I-D for L2C Protocol extensions September 2006 Framework and requirements last call November 2006 Accept WG I-D for L2C MIBs December 2006 Protocol extensions last call January 2007 MIBs last call March 2007 Re-charter or conclude Working Group Internet-Drafts: _______________________________________________ L2cp mailing list L2cp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2cp _______________________________________________ L2cp mailing list L2cp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/l2cp
- [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Wojciech Dec (wdec)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Knud Gjørup (AH/LMD)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Andrew G. Malis
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Knud Gjørup (AH/LMD)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Wojciech Dec (wdec)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Sanjay Wadhwa
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Knud Gjørup (AH/LMD)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Robert.Peschi
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Andrew G. Malis
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Wojciech Dec (wdec)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Knud Gjørup (AH/LMD)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Knud Gjørup (AH/LMD)
- [L2CP] Re: Revised WG Charter Draft Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Sanjay Wadhwa
- RE: [L2CP] Re: Revised WG Charter Draft Wojciech Dec (wdec)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Voigt, Norbert
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Wojciech Dec (wdec)
- RE: [L2CP] Revised WG Charter Draft Voigt, Norbert