RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts?
"Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)" <pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com> Fri, 07 May 2010 20:18 UTC
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From: "Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)" <pranjal.dutta@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: David Allan I <david.i.allan@ericsson.com>, "Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)" <florin.balus@alcatel-lucent.com>, "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com>, Shane Amante <shane@castlepoint.net>, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org>
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 01:47:35 +0530
Subject: RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts?
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Don't think the discussion is centered on IEEE vs IETF. It's about LDP-VPLS (RFC4762) extensions for PBB-VPLS. As Florin mentioned we are open to clarify the scope. Thanks, Pranjal ________________________________________ From: David Allan I [mailto:david.i.allan@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:27 AM To: Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin); Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal); Ali Sajassi (sajassi); Shane Amante; l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ok then, can we rename this somthing other than PBB, clearly it isn't... That would make me very happy, we would have a clear delineation between what the IEEE is doing and what the IETF is doing... D ________________________________________ From: l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin) Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:27 PM To: Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal); Ali Sajassi (sajassi); Shane Amante; l2vpn@ietf.org Subject: RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? I would summarize what Pranjal said here in the following way: - All the interop remarks below do not apply since we never said we are targeting any Native PBB-VPLS interop. Focusing on MPLS E2E case. - The answer to the second point, inconsistency between pbb-vpls-pe-model and draft-balus is not applicable - see Ali's clarification below: The inconsistency with draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model, is that as mentioned above, the C-MACs are within the bridge module and therefore their flushing should be governed by native Ethernet mechanism and transparent to VPLS forwarder for a number of reasons and advantages discussed in draft-sajassi-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-cmac-flush. I challenge everybody to go in the draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-pe-model and find the text Ali quotes: "should be governed by native Ethernet mechanism". And even if the text was there last time I checked SHOULD does not mean MUST. I think we need to drop this email chain as irrelevant for the discussion.
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- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? neil.2.harrison
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? David Allan I
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? David Allan I
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? David Allan I
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? neil.2.harrison
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Dutta, Pranjal K (Pranjal)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? David Allan I
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- FW: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- Re: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Shane Amante
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? neil.2.harrison
- Re: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Shane Amante
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
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- Summary of debate RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- Re: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Shane Amante
- RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
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- RE: Summary of debate RE: Merge MAC Withdraw Draf… Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
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- RE: Inappropriate email content Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- RE: Inappropriate email content Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
- Re: Inappropriate email content Shane Amante
- Re: Merge MAC Withdraw Drafts? Shane Amante