Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN
Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@lucidvision.com> Mon, 23 January 2012 20:54 UTC
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If there are only a few drafts left, then the other option is to punt the remaining drafts over to MPLS too. --Tom On Jan 22, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Henderickx, Wim (Wim) wrote: > Ben, i just want to ensure we close the work as you pointed out before considering closing the WG > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Niven-Jenkins [mailto:ben@niven-jenkins.co.uk] > Sent: zondag 22 januari 2012 10:59 > To: Henderickx, Wim (Wim) > Cc: Marshall Eubanks; L3VPN; Stewart Bryant (stbryant) > Subject: Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN > > Wim, > > On 22 Jan 2012, at 06:11, Henderickx, Wim (Wim) wrote: > >> Why don't we keep the WG open until the WG drafts are finished? > > Because there's nothing like a deadline to motivate people :-) > > If it's decided to wind the WG down, what I would expect is that it wouldn't just happen overnight but that we would produce a 'plan' for closure within a reasonable timeframe (say 6 months) where we would aim to finish what we have on our plate first, if possible. > > Regarding WG drafts, currently we have 3: > -> draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-wildcards, which has just gone through WG LC and about to be sent to IESG for publication > -> draft-ietf-l3vpn-acceptown-community, which we will initiate a WG LC on shortly > -> draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-bidir, which the authors say needs another revision before being ready for WG LC > > So getting those finished relatively quickly before closure seems achievable. > > I'd personally also like the combined extranet draft produced before closure but again I'd expect that should be possible relatively quickly too. > > Ben > >> We can probably do this on the mailing list and don't need a face2face meeting, but as such you keep the WG alive until the work is done. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks >> Sent: zaterdag 21 januari 2012 14:38 >> To: L3VPN; Stewart Bryant (stbryant); ben@niven-jenkins.co.uk >> Subject: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN >> >> Dear WG members; >> >> With the Paris meeting coming up, we felt that you should know that >> there has been serious discussion of shutting down the L3VPN working >> group, both because of a decline of work in the group, and because of the >> expected new work to come from the DC effort is likely to require a >> new working group with a different focus. >> >> If the WG were to be wound down, the basic choices for existing drafts are >> >> - to go to last call with the drafts that are ready for it or >> >> - to put outstanding WG drafts into another WG, such as MPLS, or >> >> - to have the ADs sponsor "orphaned" drafts that don't fit in another >> WG as individual submissions. >> >> We have polled the current draft authors, and do not see any >> insurmountable difficulties with this process. >> >> There doesn't at present seem to be enough business to warrant another >> L3VPN meeting in Paris. However, we feel that the future of the WG >> (and of the work) >> should be discussed in person, so we plan to request time on the >> agenda to discuss this at >> the RTGAREA meeting. >> >> If anyone feels that closing L3VPN would be a mistake, now is the time >> to speak up. >> >> Regards >> Marshall Eubanks / Ben Niven-Jenkins > >
- Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Marshall Eubanks
- RE: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Ben Niven-Jenkins
- RE: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- RE: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN thomas.morin
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Thomas Nadeau
- RE: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Linda Dunbar
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN IJsbrand Wijnands
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Robert Raszuk
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN IJsbrand Wijnands
- RE: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN NAPIERALA, MARIA H
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Robert Raszuk
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Thomas Narten
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Possible Shutdown of L3VPN thomas.morin