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Re: [Lake] Protocol name change from EDHOC to LAKE?

"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Mon, 29 August 2022 13:58 UTC

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From: "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu>
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Thread-Topic: [Lake] Protocol name change from EDHOC to LAKE?
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Subject: Re: [Lake] Protocol name change from EDHOC to LAKE?
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NO to the name change.

 

First, the name EDHOC has been established for long enough. 

 

Second, there’s a possibility that more protocols (lightweight key exchanges) would be brought up here. In fact, I’m preparing another one for the consideration of this group, to complement EDHOC.

 

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From: Lake <lake-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Joel Höglund <joel.hoglund@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, August 29, 2022 at 05:42
To: "lake@ietf.org" <lake@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lake] Protocol name change from EDHOC to LAKE?

 

I'm late to the discussion, but as someone who has written several papers referring to EDHOC, (and read many more) I thought it was seen as a sufficiently established name. I'm not in favour of a name change.

 

Best Regards

 

Joel Höglund

 

 

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On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 at 09:42, Göran Selander <goran.selander=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

 


> > 
> > LAKE
>
> What is the expansion going to be?
>
> (Some of us think “Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange” is the bee’s knees, some

> think it is actively misleading.  “Lightweight Authenticated Key Establishment” would WFM.)
>

I don’t have a strong opinion about EDHOC vs LAKE, but ”Authenticated Key Exchange” is as far as I know the term used for protocols authenticating the exchange of Diffie-Hellman public keys. So I’m in favor of not changing the expansion as used in the working group so far.

 

Göran

 

(Someone should fix the Wikipedia entry [1]. Its references indicate that the definition in terms of “exchange of session key” is misleading, to say the least.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticated_Key_Exchange)

 

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