Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingback
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 21 April 2011 06:57 UTC
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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:57:51 +1000
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
Cc: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "link-relations@ietf.org" <link-relations@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingback
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No; I-ds are very specifically temporary docs, and designed to be superceded. It might make sense to reserve an entry based upon an active I-d, of course. On 21/04/2011, at 4:44 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> wrote: > Makes sense to me. > > As an aside, would an expired I-D work as an alternative copy? > > EHL > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: link-relations-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:link-relations- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nottingham >> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:23 PM >> To: Julian Reschke >> Cc: Ian Hickson; link-relations@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingback >> >> There's some discussion currently going on about making updating the >> registries easier, with simplified procedures for corrections, updates, etc. >> >> If/when that happens, I'm thinking that a reference to Ian's site (or similar) >> isn't problematic, as the main problem -- that it may become unavailable if >> something happens to Ian -- isn't such an issue. >> >> Make sense? >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> On 08/04/2011, at 4:53 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> >>> On 11.08.2010 05:35, Mark Nottingham wrote: >>>> ... >>>> If you meet the "RFC or Open Standard" test, it's possible to register it. >>>> >>>> Note that publishing on the independent submission Informational RFC >> track isn't really "through the IETF process" -- it's at the discretion of the RFC >> Editor, which is a separate entity. See: >>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/indsubs.html >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4846 >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5742 >>>> >>>> While I can't say that it's necessarily a quick process, the amount of work >> involved (beyond draft formatting) is relatively low, and there are a few >> upsides, including: >>>> >>>> 1) RFCs are institutionally guaranteed not to change over time; you say >> that the spec is frozen, but there aren't checks or balances, nor conventions >> in place, to prevent future changes. >>>> 2) When you die and your Web site disappears, an RFC will have a better >> chance of persisting in an unambiguous state. >>>> ... >>> >>> Assuming we are ok with the content, but not with the *location* of the >> spec, there may be an easy way to fix this. >>> >>> For instance, >>> >>> - use >> <http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090228033516/http://hixie.ch/specs/ >> pingback/pingback> as reference, or >>> >>> - have Ian send the spec as attachment to the www-archive mailing list, and >> then link to the attachment in the mail archive. >>> >>> Best regards, Julian >> >> -- >> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> link-relations mailing list >> link-relations@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST "archives",… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST "archiv… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST "archiv… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham