[lmap] Which performance metrics for LMAP?
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Thu, 07 March 2013 11:28 UTC
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Subject: [lmap] Which performance metrics for LMAP?
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Dear all, Another clarifying question: I'm not too sure which performance metric types LMAP targets. draft-linsner-lmap-use-cases-00 mentions: It is assumed that measurement tests run by OTT providers would only include the metrics associated with layer 3 and up The different drafts use different terms: service, end user experience, quality of experience. Does Quality of Experience imply performance metrics per application, per 5 tuple (IP addresses, ports, protocol), per DCSP? Or do we want to stay at layer 3 performance metrics, typically IPPM type of metrics? If the latter, then LMAP is about large scale deployment of IPPM, right? While I fully understand the business needs for "and up" in "include the metrics associated with layer 3 and up", let's not boil the ocean. Performance Metrics at Other Layer (PMOL <http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pmol/charter/>), a concluded WG, tried and it proved to be difficult. Some more discussions, on the mailing list or during the BoF, on this topic would be appreciated. Regards, Benoit
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