Re: [lp-wan] Focused Scope for LPWAN WG at Berlin

Hello Alexander,

> It’s great that you are interested in our work! We’ll be glad to have you
> on-board for the next IETF meeting in Berlin.
>

Thank you :-)

> Would you be able to attend?
>
>
I'm planning to.

Alper

> Best,
> Alexander
>
>
>
>
> Le 21 avr. 2016 à 15:39, Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@actility.com> a écrit :
>
> Hello Ana, folks,
>
> There is indeed interest on our side. Unfortunately, the last IETF meeting
> collided with a LoRa Alliance meeting, hence I couldn't attend the IETF
> LPWAN meeting, not even remotely.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alper
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Ana Minaburo <ana@minaburo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Thomas,
>>
>> Thank you for your input, I think we can discuss of which are the good
>> technologies to study, but there is not a doubt about SIGFOX, as they have
>> shown its interested. Ofcourse we can discuss about 802.15.4g and the
>> difference between 6tisch/6lo/6LoWPAN and LP-WAN relations and differences
>> but there are a good collaboration between them and IETF and we can take
>> advantage of it. There is missing one technology, we can wait and start
>> with this two approaches and see if LoRAWAN get into the group, or see if
>> anyone of have a contect with them?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ana
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Thomas Watteyne <
>> thomas.watteyne@inria.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the BoF at Buenos Aires indicated work needs to be done in the
>>> area of LPWAN at the IETF.
>>>
>>> Most of the discussion in Buenos Aires was about the technology that was
>>> going to be addressed; that discussion is missing from the initial e-mail
>>> in this thread.
>>>
>>> There was a clear consensus from the room to narrow the scope of LPWAN
>>> to 2-3 long-range technologies. There were some remarks about whether this
>>> was the LPWAN group pushing new technology, or whether there was pull from
>>> the entities defining that technology. Since then, representatives of
>>> companies working on SIGFOX and IEEE802.15.4g technology spoke up,
>>> expressing clear interest for the solutions LPWAN could come up with. There
>>> may be others speaking up.
>>>
>>> So I believe we have our 2-3 technologies, and I strongly suggest the
>>> LPWAN group narrows its scope to those as an initial set. Please note that
>>> a IEEE802.15.4g network is not per-se single hop, so that "feature" of
>>> LPWAN should be lifted.
>>>
>>> My 2c.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <
>>> Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ana,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would focus on the use of IPv6 over these low power wide area
>>>> networks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Device management approaches, OMA LWM2M, COMI/COOL or others, would
>>>> work over these radio technologies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For security I haven’t seen a document that convinced me that some work
>>>> is needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ciao
>>>>
>>>> Hannes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* lp-wan [mailto:lp-wan-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ana
>>>> Minaburo
>>>> *Sent:* 18 April 2016 23:03
>>>> *To:* lp-wan@ietf.org
>>>> *Subject:* [lp-wan] Focused Scope for LPWAN WG at Berlin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well in this message I would like to discuss the scope of the WG. We
>>>> need to define the focused gaps we want to work in. Let's agree about which
>>>> are the subjects we want to study,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the following points are vey important in order to create the
>>>> WG, please tell me which other you think we need to add.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. IPv6
>>>>
>>>> draft-gomez-lpwan-ipv6-analysis-00
>>>>
>>>> IP End to End Communication
>>>>
>>>> IPv6 MTU requires fragmentation
>>>>
>>>> ND will be configured in advanced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. Header Compression
>>>>
>>>> draft-toutain-lp-wan-compression-context-00
>>>>
>>>> New Mechanism adapted to challenged networks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Security
>>>>
>>>> Personal information need to be secured,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4. Management
>>>>
>>>> draft-pelov-core-cosol-01
>>>>
>>>> draft-veillette-core-cool-01
>>>>
>>>> draft-somaraju-core-sid-00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Ana
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> _______________________________________
>>>
>>> Thomas Watteyne, PhD
>>> Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria
>>> Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech
>>> Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN
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>>>
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