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"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Mon, 23 August 2021 18:24 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
CC: Shraddha Hegde <shraddha@juniper.net>, Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-hegde-lsr-asla-any-app-00.txt
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To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-hegde-lsr-asla-any-app-00.txt


You continue to confuse Flex and ASLA.

I don't think so ... This thread is about ASLA encoding for Flex-Algo.
[LES:] Noooo --- please read your own draft. 😊]
The work “Flex” does not appear anywhere in the draft – nor should it.

ASLA is an architecture that supports multiple applications – of which Flex is just one of the supported applications.

Care to elaborate why ASLA SABM allows only 64 applications ? Even MT allowed 4K topologies.

[LES:] Application != topology
As you see, a single application (Flex) can support multiple “topologies” – but that is orthogonal.
The real issue here is you continue to not fully understand the distinction between an “application” and the capabilities of a given application – one of which may be to support multiple “topologies”.
Flex is a specific application which supports multiple “sets of constraints” – AKA algorithms.

With that definition everything is Flex. Topologies differ one from another by running SPT on a different sets of links with different "sets of constraints"

[LES:] Nooo…the bits in the SABM mask are assigned in https://www.iana.org/assignments/igp-parameters/igp-parameters.xhtml#link-attribute-application-identifiers
(Note that Flex has a bit assignment which is not yet reflected there.)
You need to allow that a new application might have completely semantics.
And, Flex is doing just fine as it is – one of the indicators of which I believe is your enthusiasm for it. 😊

Let's see if the reverse works :)

[LES:] Sorry – standing the hierarchy on its head does not make sense – no matter how many times you suggest it.

   Les

Best,
R,

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