Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin

Leif writes:

>I would like these guidelines, for when to avoid and when to
>recommend the macrolanguage tag, to go in:
>
><t>When using a macrolanguage subtag to form the tag for an
>encompassed language, one should be reluctant to translate its
>meaning - in a user interface or similar - to the spesific name.

I don't think we want to get into specifying user interface names. We are specifying codes for the representation of languages, not names.

>For example, if one wants to label Mandarin as "Chinese", then
>'zh' is fine. But if one wants to label Mandarin as "Mandarin",
>then 'zh' is not appropriate for this. Using 'zh' while displaying
>it as "Mandarin" could lead to compatibility problems and
>confusion amongst consumers and endusers.</t>

Label specification is out of scope.

><t>Interfaces for choosing between two (or more) encompassed
>languages of the same macrolanguage do wise in considering the
>needs for neutrality and clearness before letting one of the
>encompassed languages being distinguished from the others by the
>use of the macrolanguage tag. For instance, look out for
>macrolanguages whose name equals that of a nationality.</t>

Not sure this clarifies anything and also seems out of scope.

><t>However, the macrolanguage tags might still be suitable even in
>a contexts with several encompassed languages. For example, if a
>system is localized for each and everyone of the encompassed
>langauges of a particular macrolangauge -- for example each of the
>13 encompassed Chinese languages -- the macrolangauge tag might be
>reserved for resources which for some reason are not intended for
>translation, but which still are intended for the users of all the
>encompassed languages.</t>

Agree in principle, but not sure this really helpful.

><t>Or, in a strictly monlinguaal, encompassed language system, for
>example for Mandarin, the 'zh' tag could be reserved -- or open --
>for content which is not Mandarin, in order to allow coexistens of
>Chinese resourceses which are not Mandarine and wihtout tagging
>them as Mandarin.</t>

Don't think this is good advice.

Karen

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