Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin
Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Thu, 05 June 2008 20:34 UTC
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> From: Broome, Karen [mailto:Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com] > I agree that zh-cmn or cmn SHOULD be used. zh will remain valid and > includes both Mandarin and Cantonese, so MUST is too strong. > > I think this is the last of the disagreement. Mark Davis believes "zh" > SHOULD be used. Could we straw poll that? SHOULD be used for what? For any Mandarin? I can't speak for him, but I'd guess his position would be that, for some application scenarios, zh is what should be used for Mandarin, but that we shouldn't make that recommendation across the board -- and I'd agree with that. Every application has to evaluate what makes best sense. Where there is no reason not to do so and any potential need to differentiate, then I think Mandarin content should be tagged zh-cmn / cmn. Where there are particular reasons for doing so, I have no problem if implementers of some application decide that, for their purposes, all Mandarin content should be tagged zh. And if someone has no reason why not to tag zh-cmn / cmn but they believe they will never have a need to differentiate and decide they just want to tag their Mandarin content as zh, I don't care at all: it's their prerogative to tag Chinese content as Chinese. And if they decide to describe their content to users as "Mandarin", I might say, "Be careful that doesn't come back to bite you later on," but then leave them to take their own risks. Peter _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Mark Davis
- [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Gerard Meijssen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] ISO 639 was RE: zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] User interface (was: Re: zh != Mandarin) Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] User interface (was: Re: zh != Mandari… Gerard Meijssen
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] zh != Mandarin Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] User interface (was: Re: zh != Mandari… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] User interface (was: Re: zh != Mandari… Broome, Karen
- Re: [Ltru] ISO 639 was RE: zh != Mandarin Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ltru] ISO 639 was RE: zh != Mandarin John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] User interface Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] ISO 639 was RE: zh != Mandarin Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] User interface Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Direct links to 369-3 in Section 4.1.1 Leif Halvard Silli
- Re: [Ltru] ISO 639 was RE: zh != Mandarin Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] Usage contexts Leif Halvard Silli