Re: [Lwip] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-lwig-curve-representations-19: (with DISCUSS)

["Murray S. Kucherawy" <[e-mail]>]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:57 AM Rene Struik <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I am sure you have much more process experience than I do. However, I have
> trouble understanding how having a IANA section makes this suddenly a
> process violation. Do I understand correctly that, in your mind, this
> process issue would be moot if I would simply partition the doc into two
> parts A and B, where C:=A+B is the current document and where A=C\B and
> B:={Section 12.2, Section 12.3}?
>
> [...]
>
> I simply would like to understand, since I do not right now.
>

Hopefully this helps rather than muddies things further, and Magnus (and
Erik, and Ben, etc.) can correct me if I'm wrong:

The first issue: The Last Call announcement for this document indicated
that the working group wants it to have Informational status when
published.  After that Last Call was completed, our procedures assert that
the document, with any Last Call feedback worked into it, has IETF
consensus to be published with that specific status.  Changing the status
being sought to Standards Track without also running a new Last Call saying
so violates our procedures; the document can't go forward unless that
status change is reverted, or a second Last Call is done indicating the new
intended status.  This point has nothing at all to do with the content of
the document, but rather the path it has followed through the process so
far.

The second issue: The LWIG working group does not appear (on a cursory
read) to be chartered to produce a document that does this sort of work
with cryptographic algorithms.  Since a working group's charter is in
effect a contract between the working group and the IESG to describe
exactly the work it will produce, the delta between what this document is
doing and what LWIG's charter says is large enough that this is something
worthy of discussion and resolution before the document should advance.  If
the charter is wrong, let's renegotiate it; if this work needs to be done
in a different venue, let's make that arrangement; etc.

I believe Magnus is right to put the brakes on until these issues are
sorted out.

-MSK