Re: [Mailsec] Subscription check

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Mon, 13 November 2023 13:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mailsec] Subscription check
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On Sun 12/Nov/2023 15:59:54 +0100 Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
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>> 1) methods to verify subscription should be revised, and
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>> 2) this list is very silent.
> 
> This is indeeed a very quiet list.


How about the other point?  Except for my goofy re-subscription attempt, list 
subscriptions can only be checked by waiting for monthly reminders, which I 
call a time distributed database.


Best
Ale
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