Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25.txt

Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com> Wed, 16 November 2016 01:01 UTC

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From: Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 20:01:26 -0500
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Subject: Re: [manet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25.txt
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Alvaro,

I'm fine with SHOULD.

Regards,
Stan


On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) <aretana@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Lou:
>
> Hi!
>
> Would "SHOULD " make you feel better?  I can live with that.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alvaro.
>
> Thumb typed and autocorrected.
>
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lou,
>
> I 100% agree with you. But this was an AD (Alvaro) "request". I use
> "request" in quotes, as it was along the lines of "an offer you can't
> refuse"...
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Stan.  I have some concerns over the following new text:
>>
>> > If the router and modem support both IPv4 and IPv6, the
>>    IPv6 transport MUST be used for the DLEP session.
>>
>> To me the choice of v6 vs v4 *usage* is a deployment choice and not a
>> protocol interop issue.  The new text literally precludes an operator
>> from choosing v4 in their network.  I think this is inappropriate and
>> means that the protocol can't be deployed in certain combinations (i.e.,
>> an implementation that supports v6 but a network that chooses not to.)
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> On 10/29/2016 1:26 AM, Stan Ratliff wrote:
>> > Lou,
>> >
>> > That was an AD request.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Stan
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net
>> > <mailto:lberger@labn.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Can elaborate on the new v6 requirement?  It doesn't impact
>> >     interoperability and may not be the right default for all.
>> >
>> >     Lou
>> >
>> >     On October 28, 2016 11:44:40 AM Stan Ratliff
>> >     <ratliffstan@gmail.com <mailto:ratliffstan@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>     Hello WG participants,
>> >>
>> >>     As you can see, we posted a new version of DLEP. This addresses
>> >>     comments from the AD review, and clarifies handling of IPv4/IPv6
>> >>     address and subnet Data Items (issue brought on-list be David
>> >>     Wiggins).
>> >>
>> >>     Regards,
>> >>     Stan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:31 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> >>     <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> >>         Internet-Drafts directories.
>> >>         This draft is a work item of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks of
>> >>         the IETF.
>> >>
>> >>                 Title           : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP)
>> >>                 Authors         : Stan Ratliff
>> >>                                   Shawn Jury
>> >>                                   Darryl Satterwhite
>> >>                                   Rick Taylor
>> >>                                   Bo Berry
>> >>                 Filename        : draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25.txt
>> >>                 Pages           : 74
>> >>                 Date            : 2016-10-28
>> >>
>> >>         Abstract:
>> >>            When routing devices rely on modems to effect
>> >>         communications over
>> >>            wireless links, they need timely and accurate knowledge of
>> the
>> >>            characteristics of the link (speed, state, etc.) in order
>> >>         to make
>> >>            routing decisions.  In mobile or other environments where
>> >>         these
>> >>            characteristics change frequently, manual configurations
>> >>         or the
>> >>            inference of state through routing or transport protocols
>> >>         does not
>> >>            allow the router to make the best decisions.  A
>> >>         bidirectional, event-
>> >>            driven communication channel between the router and the
>> >>         modem is
>> >>            necessary.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> >>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep/
>> >>         <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-dlep/>
>> >>
>> >>         There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> >>         https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25
>> >>         <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25>
>> >>
>> >>         A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> >>         https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25
>> >>         <https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-manet-dlep-25>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the
>> >>         time of submission
>> >>         until the htmlized version and diff are available at
>> >>         tools.ietf.org <http://tools.ietf.org>.
>> >>
>> >>         Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> >>         ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>> >>         <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/>
>> >>
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