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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 06 April 2021 20:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] [EXT] Re: New Version Notification for draft-kuehlewind-shmoo-online-meeting-00.txt
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On 07-Apr-21 07:23, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
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>> Il 06/04/2021 20:57 Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> ha scritto:
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>>> On 6/04/2021, at 8:22 PM, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
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>>>> Il 05/04/2021 22:12 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
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>>>> Martin,
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>>>>> Meetings run in one of three slots:
>>>>> from 0000-0600 UTC ("Asia"), 0800-1400 UTC ("Europe"), or 1600-2200 UTC ("North America").
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>>>> I think that is very reasonable, although I suggest qualifying it with "approximately". Also, the second one might be more neutrally labelled as "EMEA" (Europe/Middle East/Africa) and the third one as "The Americas".
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>>> And the first one should more correctly be labelled "Asia/Pacific".
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>> I believe RFC 8719 is quite clear that this is Asia not Asia/Pacific.
> Well, then the other two are also definitely "Europe" and "North America" rather than "EMEA" and "The Americas". It would however be a bit more friendly towards those world regions that are currently excluded from the regular physical meeting rotation if they could at least be acknowledged in the naming of virtual meeting timezones.

The original regions were settled when thinking about f2f meetings and the distances people had to travel. This is a new discussion where the thing to think about is timezones. For Europe vs EMEA and North America vs The Americas there really isn't any dispute. My point is that "Asia" goes from Eastern Turkey as far say Indonesia, which is already a wide spread of timezones. "Asia-Pacific" goes as far east as New Zealand or in some interpretations Hawai'i (or even Vancouver). You can't usefully define AP as reference point for a timezone.

Regards
    Brian

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