Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-marf-not-spam-feedback-00.txt
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Sun, 29 May 2011 01:33 UTC
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Thanks, folks, for the comments. Steve: It is intended for use across boundaries, and can certainly be used internally as well. It's intended for exactly the same use that the base MARF report types are. Alessandro and JD: Yes, there's certainly the case that "not-spam" reports can't be just taken at face value if that would cause them to affect the filtering for other users. We'll put some more into the next version of the draft to make that more explicit. I don't think we want to change the name of the report, though -- just the documentation. Brett: Yes, I'm always happy to change or add examples, and I generally believe that more examples improve most documents. I'll change the example, or add a new one (or ones), as you suggest. I'll have a chair chat with Murray, and then post a new version at his direction. Barry
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… McDowell, Brett
- Re: [marf] New Version Notification for draft-li-… Barry Leiba