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Re: [martini] GIN temp GRUU

Martien Huysmans <martien.huysmans@ericsson.com> Thu, 01 July 2010 06:26 UTC

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The mail was called: GIN and anonymous GRUUS

I was not considering "out of dialog requests". 
Is that a requirement for anonymous calls?

With a B2BUA in place, perhaps gruu would not be needed at all.

/Regards Martien 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzivat@cisco.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:24 AM
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Cc: Cullen Jennings; martini@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [martini] GIN temp GRUU



Martien Huysmans wrote:
> Hi
> 
> In the mailing list also the option of a privacy service provided by 
> the SSP was suggested, which when acting as B2BUA, would ensure that a party remains anonymous.
> No comments were posted on this suggestion.
> Can this be a viable alternative?

I didn't see that mail - can you provide a reference?

What privacy service spec/features does this imply?

To provide full functionality, for every dialog it would have to insert a B2BUA, create a temp gruu to replace the supplied contact, and then route out-of-dialog requests for that temp-gruu to the calling UA. And it would have to inactivate that temp-gruu at some suitable time.

The real gruu mechanism seems less trouble.

	Thanks,
	Paul

> Regards Martien
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: martini-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:martini-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Cullen Jennings
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:01 PM
> To: martini@ietf.org
> Subject: [martini] GIN temp GRUU
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> 
> I'm not OK with requiring out of band provisioning for K_e2. This would be a nightmare in practice. Could it be passed in the register response?
> 
> Having this as optional does not really work for me because most the US based customers doing PSTN replacement believe they are required to provide anonymous call. 
> 
> Overall, looks workable yet complicated - I wish there was a simpler way but I could live with this. 
> 
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