Re: [mif] The formation of the design team

What I'd like to see happen in the context of MIF is a collaborative 
effort to identify limitations in the Internet architecture that are 
exposed by the existence of hosts with multiple active Internet interfaces.

But the community shouldn't rely on a committee to recommend changes to 
the architecture.   Nor should an effort to identify possible changes in 
the architecture be narrowly scoped in the way that IETF WGs tend to be 
scoped.   Architectural changes need to consider broad effects, be able 
to touch multiple protocols and levels, and be able to address multiple 
kinds of limitations at once - while still being designed to facilitate 
an orderly transition and to work well during that transition.

So I think that actual proposals for changes to the Internet 
architecture need to come from individual authors (or small groups of 
authors) who don't have any WG or other endorsement for their efforts.   
But those proposals need to be informed by input from several different 
WGs and/or areas.   So MIF isn't the only group that needs to be 
identifying lists of architectural limitations.

Keith

>
> Keith,
>
> We are attempting to do this work in a way that is open to all of the 
> willing/interested participants.  It is highly unlikely that all of 
> the members of the design team will write text or participate equally, 
> so in the end it may come down to a much smaller group of people doing 
> the writing.  Hopefully they will be informed by discussions of the 
> larger group, though.
>
> That said, this design team does not have any sort of monopoly on 
> making contributions to the MIF WG.  Anyone who wants to make a 
> contribution on this topic is welcome do so. So, if you would like to 
> get together a smaller group of people to contribute on this topic, 
> please do!
>
> Margaret
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com 
> <mailto:moore@network-heretics.com>> wrote:
>
>> A design team is a lousy way to develop an architecture.  You need 
>> two or three people, max.
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> MIF working group has formed a design team to work on the 
>>> architecture issue.
>>> Below are the list of contributors:
>>> Alper Yegin
>>> Aaron Yi DING
>>> Cao Zhen
>>> Dan York [security related only]
>>> Dapeng Liu
>>> Dave Thaler
>>> Fred baker [I'm willing to do that]
>>> Jouni Korhonen
>>> JuanCarlos.Zuniga
>>> Konstantinos Pentikousis
>>> Lorenzo Colitti
>>> Marc Blanchet
>>> pierrick.seite
>>> suresh krishnan
>>> Tim Chown  [identity or other perspectives]
>>> Teemu Savolainen
>>> WG Chair: Margaret Wasserman, Hui Deng
>>> AD: Ted Lemon
>>> thank you
>>> -chairs
>>>
>>>
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