Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps?
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 24 April 2012 07:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps?
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On 2012-04-24 08:06, Maglione Roberta wrote: >> It would help to complete this argument if you unpacked the details here. > Why is RA so much more expensive than DHCP in this case? I get the sense > that this is obvious to the people who are promoting various DHCP route >> options, but it clearly isn't obvious to people who aren't network >> operators, so more detail is needed. > > Because in order to be able to use RA's you would need to somehow provision each single BNG (the router that is supposed to send the RA) with the route information to be sent into RA's for all the subscribers and if, for any reason, you need to move a subscriber from one BNG to another you would need to re-provision the same information on the other BNG. > > While with DHCPv6 you can have a single centralized provision point and no additional configuration required on the BNG. This is an operational difference for an operator. Unfortunately, people with zero experience of running a reasonably large network seem unable to understand this elementary point. This is much bigger than a MIF issue. Brian
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tony Hain
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
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- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tony Hain
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tony Hain
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tony Hain
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tony Hain
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Erik Kline
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Erik Kline
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tony Hain
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? jouni korhonen
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Wojciech Dec
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Tao Sun
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Ted Lemon
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Maglione Roberta
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Maglione Roberta
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? jouni korhonen
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [mif] Route option for DHCPv6 - next steps? Behcet Sarikaya