Re: [mif] Comments on draft-mouton-mif-dhcpv6-drlo-00

<teemu.savolainen@nokia.com> Tue, 13 September 2011 21:29 UTC

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Could you please be more specific what is this 3G+? I mean use of DHCPv4 for address config is extremely rare on real 3GPP accesses and stateful DHCPv6 for address config is not on any 3GPP spec version (save PD) at least..

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From: ext Alexandru Petrescu
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Subject: Re: [mif] Comments on draft-mouton-mif-dhcpv6-drlo-00

Le 13/09/2011 21:20, Simon Perreault a écrit :
> Ted Lemon wrote, on 09/13/2011 03:15 PM:
>> Also, I'm a bit confused by the idea of an interface route with no
>> router address in IPv6.   I will admit to being something of a tyro
>> when it comes to these things, but I don't understand how that
>> would work.   Does the client simply multicast every packet?   Is
>> there an RFC or draft that documents how this works?
>
> I'm guessing that's a point-to-point interface. So you don't need the
> next hop's L2 address. You just send it down the tube and it gets at
> the other end. The classic example is PPP.

YEs, it is a "no ARP" interface, but in some 3G+ it is not PPP.

Yes, the client just sends it down the tube.

But no, the Client can't set up that default route when all is being
given is "0.0.0.0".  It must tell the interface name.  The Client by
itself is not capable to decide how to insert that default router entry
in its routing table, it just can't solve "0.0.0.0" on some interface
name so it must be told the interface name by some spec or mechanism.

Alex

>
> Simon

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