Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks
Rafa Marin Lopez <rafa@dif.um.es> Tue, 15 February 2005 19:54 UTC
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Hi Alper,all I think this classification could be summarized in two models (agent sequence and pull sequence) in this sense: Taking into account that HA would be service equipment for Mobile IPv6 service then: if people want pull sequence then they need to know HA address and execute some kind of protocol between MT and NAS(HA) and HA contacts AAA server (framework 4) MT------HA------AAA if people want (framework 1, framework 2, framework 3) to deliver MIP6 configuration parameters with network access, agent sequence could fit in the majority of these cases MT-----AAA-----HA note1 : you may want to include draft-ohba-mip6-boot-arch-dhcp-00.txt in framework 2. note2 : draft-bournelle-pana-mip6-00 can match with sequences shown by draft-ohba-aaaarch-authorization-delegation-00 Regards. Alper Yegin wrote: >This is an attempt to enumerate possible MIP6-AAA frameworks, and start >discussions on for which one(s) IETF shall pursue standardization. > >Framework 1: >------------ >Using network access AAA to deliver MIP6 configuration parameters from >the AAA server to the MN. > >MIP6 configuration is directly delivered from the AAA server to the MN >during network access AAA, in-band with the authentication (e.g., >transported by EAP or EAP methods). > >Related I-Ds: > >draft-giaretta-mip6-authorization-eap-01 >draft-le-aaa-mipv6-requirements-03 >draft-ohnishi-mip6-aaa-problem-statement-00 > >Discussion: > >The end2end transport between the AAA and the MN is the key. Use of EAP >for this somewhat network access unrelated "configuration" is not >recommended as far as I understand. One can design his own EAP method to >do that, yet that would have limited applicability. > > >Framework 2: >------------ >Using network access AAA to deliver MIP6 configuration parameters from >the AAA server to the NAS. It is assumed that parameters will be >delivered from the NAS to the MN via another protocol (e.g., DHCP, PANA, >etc.) > >Related I-Ds: > >draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-00 >draft-jang-dhc-haopt-00 > >Discussion: > >This is similar to NAS learning the IP address for the connected host >via RADIUS, and delivering it to the host via DHCP. > >James had a comment regarding not having to support intra-operator >interoperability. I think regardless of the deployment, interoperability >between vendors is the important. Also, I was not sure on the complexity >argument. > >3GPP2 has already chosen this scheme. Some other SDO(s) may follow the >suit. > >Framework 3: >------------ >Piggybacking MIP6 signaling (BU) with network access AAA. In-band with >the network access authentication execution, the MN delivers >(piggybacks) a BU to the AAA server. The AAA server may have to relay >the BU to the HA (unless collocated). > >Related I-D: > >draft-le-aaa-mipv6-requirements-03 > >Discussion: > >While the performance benefits are clear, limited applicability (not >always the network access and mobility services are bundled) and >complexity are concerning. > > >Framework 4: >------------ >A backend AAA protocol is executed between the HA and the AAA server in >response to the MIP6 signaling between the MN and the HA. Similar to the >use of AAA protocols with MIPv4 co-located care-of address case. > >Related I-Ds: > >draft-giaretta-mip6-aaa-ha-goals-00.txt >draft-yegin-mip6-aaa-fwk-00.txt > >Discussion: >This one appears to be the most needed framework. It is assumed that MN >already knows the HA address. > > >Are there other frameworks to add? > >I am sure I have missed some references, please let us know which ones. > >Alper > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Mip6 mailing list >Mip6@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip6 > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------ Rafael Marin Lopez Faculty of Computer Science-University of Murcia 30071 Murcia - Spain Telf: +34968367645 e-mail: rafa@dif.um.es ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Mip6 mailing list Mip6@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip6
- [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aaa-ha… Basavaraj.Patil
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Gerardo Giaretta
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Basavaraj.Patil
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Junghoon Jee
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Gerardo Giaretta
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Gerardo Giaretta
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… DENG, HUI -HCHIBJ
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Mayumi Yanagiya
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… John Loughney
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Julien Bournelle
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Alper Yegin
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Julien Bournelle
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Junghoon Jee
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Junghoon Jee
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Rafa Marin Lopez
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Erik Nordmark
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Mohan Parthasarathy
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Julien Bournelle
- MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa framework… Alper Yegin
- MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa framework… Alper Yegin
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Mohan Parthasarathy
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- RE: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Alper Yegin
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… James Kempf
- RE: MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Alper Yegin
- RE: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Alper Yegin
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… James Kempf
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Mohan Parthasarathy
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Mayumi Yanagiya
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney