MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks)
Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@samsung.com> Wed, 16 February 2005 16:12 UTC
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:04:12 -0800
From: Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@samsung.com>
Subject: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks)
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(Catching up with e-mail... ) > > Framework 2: > > ------------ > > Using network access AAA to deliver MIP6 configuration parameters from > > the AAA server to the NAS. It is assumed that parameters will be > > delivered from the NAS to the MN via another protocol (e.g., DHCP, PANA, > > etc.) > > > > Related I-Ds: > > > > draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-00 > > draft-jang-dhc-haopt-00 > > > > Discussion: > > > > This is similar to NAS learning the IP address for the connected host > > via RADIUS, and delivering it to the host via DHCP. > > > > James had a comment regarding not having to support intra-operator > > interoperability. I think regardless of the deployment, interoperability > > between vendors is the important. Also, I was not sure on the complexity > > argument. > > > > Consider the following. Suppose RADIUS is used to transfer operator A's HA > addresses from operator A's AAA server to operator B's NAS. First question > is whether the addresses are delivered every time a roamed host makes a > DHCP > request for the HA address? Since network access AAA happens before DHCP takes place, the HA address should be delivered via RADIUS even before MN asks for it. > If not and there is any caching going on, then > the addresses could get stale. It'd be as fresh as the network access session. > Second question is how the NAS > differentiates > which home operator to ask for the addresses? NAS gets what AAA home server (for network access) delivers. > Presumably an NAI but is > that > separate or combined with DHCP? This is a big change in the basic IETF > DHCP > architecture, IMHO. Managing DHCP configuration information within an > operator's domain is difficult enough. I don't see that. Please see newly issued RFC 4014. Or, Framed-IP-address attribute as defined in RFC 2865. > > 3GPP2 has already chosen this scheme. Some other SDO(s) may follow the > > suit. > > > > Can someone provide more details here? As far as I know, in the current > 3GPP2 MIP4 system, the PDSN is both home and foreign agent (please correct > if this is wrong), so I don't see how DHCP would come into the picture. > How > are they planning on changing that for MIP6? Are they really planning on > distributing the addresses of home agents between operators or just within > a > single operator? I'll let 3GPP2 folks comment on that. Alper _______________________________________________ Mip6 mailing list Mip6@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mip6
- [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aaa-ha… Basavaraj.Patil
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Gerardo Giaretta
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Basavaraj.Patil
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Junghoon Jee
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Gerardo Giaretta
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Gerardo Giaretta
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… DENG, HUI -HCHIBJ
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Mayumi Yanagiya
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… John Loughney
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Julien Bournelle
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Alper Yegin
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Julien Bournelle
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Junghoon Jee
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Junghoon Jee
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Rafa Marin Lopez
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Erik Nordmark
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Mohan Parthasarathy
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Julien Bournelle
- MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa framework… Alper Yegin
- MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa framework… Alper Yegin
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Mohan Parthasarathy
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- RE: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Alper Yegin
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… James Kempf
- RE: MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Alper Yegin
- RE: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Alper Yegin
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 2 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… James Kempf
- Re: MIP6-AAA Fwk 3 (was RE: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frame… Mohan Parthasarathy
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] mip6-aaa frameworks Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… Mayumi Yanagiya
- Re: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… James Kempf
- RE: [Mip6] Consensus call: draft-giaretta-mip6-aa… john.loughney