[MIPSHOP-MIH-DT] Re: Still [Transport] issues

Telemaco Melia <telemaco.melia@netlab.nec.de> Tue, 04 September 2007 14:09 UTC

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Subject: [MIPSHOP-MIH-DT] Re: Still [Transport] issues
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Hi all,

Let's go through these issues during the AC and assign action points to 
update the document accordingly.

tele

Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am still wondering, if the transport we have chosen are the right
> ones. I understand that ES and CS are rather small messages, and having
> UDP carrying them would be good enough. The problem is, that these two
> types of messages fall under a "push" model, where the network would
> unsolicitedly send these messages over udp. If there are to be
> middlebozes in between, those will cause problems. Current NATs do not
> have a well specified timeout period but it seems that 30 sec is quite
> ofter used.
>
> IS on the other had is more like a pull model, so no major problems for
> the middleboxes. If MIH would have applic layer fragmentation, then I'd
> say udp would certainly fit better here than tcp.
>
> We could say that any choice is as good (or as bad) as the other one, it
> mainly depends on the deployment scenario which we still do no know. I
> was just trying to point out that avoiding udp fragmentation must not be
> the only consideration to be taken into account.
>
> Hopefully we can spend a few minutes on these issues on the conf call.
>
> - gabor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Telemaco Melia [mailto:telemaco.melia@netlab.nec.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:46 AM
> To: mipshop-mih-dt@ietf.org
> Subject: [MIPSHOP-MIH-DT] Current status
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have been reading the input Gabor provided with the IDs
> draft-bajko-mos-dhcp-options-00 and draft-bajko-mos-dns-discovery-00.
> Thanks Gabor for the work. Here my comments:
>
> o draft-bajko-mos-dhcp-options-00
> -1 terminology section should be aligned with the PS doc
> -2 introduction section: I do not think it is required, I would prefer
> to refer to the solution doc and move the text there if you want.
> -3 discussion on co-located MoS: move it to the solution document when
> we talk about the transport
>
> o draft-bajko-mos-dns-discovery-00
> - same as before for 1 and 2
> - refer to the solution document when you discuss on the selection of
> the transport
>
> During the nect AC we should then discuss the open points noted in the
> draft.
> I also would like to receive from Nada an update of the current status
> and see what text we can included in the first version of the document.
>
> As for the time of the AC I would propose to have it at 14:00 CET on
> Tuesday September 4th.
> Would  be fine with everybody?
>
> Please le me know
>
> Telemac
>   


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