Re: [MLS] recharter text

[Rohan Mahy <[e-mail]>]

Benjamin,
Are you speaking about backups of instant message history? If so, I don't
think we want the keying of the history to necessarily correspond with the
keying in MLS.
Without a draft or statement of requirements, I think this is too early to
assume this is in MLS.
Thanks,
-rohan

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On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 6:08 AM Benjamin Beurdouche <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I think something that we should include in our extensions list is
> encrypted backups.
> As discussed in MIMI, I think this is a generic need that would best fit
> in the MLS WG.
>
> B.
>
> On 29 Nov 2023, at 14:50, Raphael Robert <ietf=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Sorry for chiming in late on this. As noted before (thanks Brendan), there
> are two items for which we have good consensus and that are being worked on
> actively:
>
>  - safe extensions
>  - user trees
>
> Neither is currently covered by the 01-01 charter. Given how far along we
> are in the process, this should already be covered now and not in 6 months
> from now.
> Beyond that, if regular rechartering is an option, I think we should go
> for it and reconsider things in 6-12 months.
>
> Raphael
>
> On 29. Nov 2023, at 14:30, Richard Barnes <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I think we've got enough specific items on the list to keep us busy for a
> while.  As Paul says, rechartering is (pretty) cheap, so let's tick off
> some of the items we have and then we can add more.
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 4:42 PM Paul Wouters <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, Sean Turner wrote:
>>
>> >> On Nov 10, 2023, at 14:59, Watson Ladd <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 11:29 AM Sean Turner <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi! As discussed at the IWTF 118 session, the revised charter text
>> can be found here:
>> >>> https://github.com/mlswg/wg-materials/tree/main/wg-charter
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard has already provided extension related text, i.e., listing
>> the extensions we are going to work on:
>> >>> https://github.com/mlswg/wg-materials/pull/14.
>> >>> Please let us know here or in the repo whether you agree with the
>> list of extensions. And, note that doing work on other extensions is likely
>> going to require a recharter so let’s try to get this list right.
>> >>
>> >> Does a saving clause of "such other extensions as the working group
>> >> consensus deems advisable" sound good?  While I see from the record
>> >> EKR wanted some scoping, I think having an explicit list of things to
>> >> work on and then others is good enough.
>> >
>> > I am concerned that somebody on the IESG might think of this as a blank
>> check. I also really want to see if we can work through the existing set of
>> extensions and then maybe recharter to something a little more loose.
>>
>> And by somebody, Sean specifically means me, your friendly neighbourhood
>> AD :)
>>
>> Rechartering is cheap, so these clauses are not needed. And it allows
>> (read: forces) the WG a bit more structure to complete older ideas before
>> moving onto the next new shiny thing. Because, SQUIRREL!
>>
>> Paul
>>
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